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Jennalyce

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Re: Cannabis being legalized...
« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2018, 08:15:56 AM »

Thank you all...I will look into it. I have a fear of things such as this that I don't know much about....
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« Reply #41 on: November 30, 2018, 05:31:29 PM »

The 1930ís and 1980ís drug war propaganda was very effective in deceiving the masses and influencing the opinions of people for decades. But the truth can never be hidden forever and Iím thankful to God that more and more people are awaking out of their ignorance of what Cannabis is and what it isnít.

I smoke Cannabis daily. The THC kind. It has been a blessing and I give thanks to the Almighty Creator for creating every seed bearing herb for the service of man. It serves me well.

Regardless of your thoughts on Cannabis, personal freedom is a good thing. If I donít have the freedom to put whatever I want into my body so long as it doesnít harm another person, than I do not have ownership over my own body. And if I donít have ownership over my own body than someone else does and I am not free.

I wish freedom for all of you to do what you want with your own lives as long as it doesnít hurt anyone else. Even if you want to ruin your own life. Every person should have the right to ruin their lives if they so choose.... to their own master will they rise or fall.

God Bless you ALL.
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Dennis Vogel

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Re: Cannabis being legalized...
« Reply #42 on: November 30, 2018, 07:18:39 PM »

Back in the 80's Cannabis was 10% as powerful as it is today.

If you are an island and have no one that will deeply mourn your passing then ...

No man is an island,
Entire of itself,
Every man is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thy friend's
Or of thine own were:
Any man's death diminishes me,
Because I am involved in mankind,
And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.

John Donne

I can't say that the above is biblical - It's a poem


Poet's Notes about The Poem
These famous words by John Donne were not originally written as a poem - the passage is taken from the 1624 Meditation 17, from Devotions Upon Emergent Occasions and is prose. The words of the original passage are as follows:

John Donne
Meditation 17
Devotions upon Emergent Occasions

'No man is an iland, intire of it selfe; every man is a peece of the Continent, a part of the maine; if a clod bee washed away by the Sea, Europe is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as well as if a Mannor of thy friends or of thine owne were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee....'  'Google'

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John from Kentucky

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Re: Cannabis being legalized...
« Reply #43 on: November 30, 2018, 09:22:54 PM »

What do the Scriptures say about this issue?

The Scriptures do not condemn drinking alcohol, but strongly condemns intoxication.
After all, Jesus's 1st miracle was creating hundreds of gallons of good wine.

I have never had marijuana or any kind of any illegal drugs.

So if marijuana causes immediate intoxication, I would say the Scriptures would condemn it.

Also, if smoking tobacco causes harm to your body, wouldn't the smoking of marijuana cause similar harm?

An overall principle of Scripture is to cause no harm to yourself or others.

So how can smoking marijuana be O.K. just because you think it is right?  Only God decides right and wrong.

The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil has bitter fruit.








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« Reply #44 on: November 30, 2018, 09:41:45 PM »

I think discipline is needed.  Most behavior is habitual, and they say chains of habit are too weak to be felt until they are too strong to be broken. 
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« Reply #45 on: November 30, 2018, 10:07:54 PM »

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personal freedom is a good thing. If I donít have the freedom to put whatever I want into my body so long as it doesnít harm another person, than I do not have ownership over my own body. And if I donít have ownership over my own body than someone else does and I am not free.

I wish freedom for all of you to do what you want with your own lives as long as it doesnít hurt anyone else. Even if you want to ruin your own life. Every person should have the right to ruin their lives if they so choose.... to their own master will they rise or fall.
I personally don't see freedom in "making any possible choice, regardless of consequences." Freedom is found in Christ, not apart from Him. How would hurting yourself, no matter how much or little it affects others, be glorifying God? It is not glorifying God.

I think God would hurt the most by His child hurting themselves.

1 Corinthians 3
16Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

1 Corinthians 6
19Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;
20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.
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Re: Cannabis being legalized...
« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2018, 04:17:07 PM »

sugar is more harmful to your body/your temple than cannabis. Sugar is eight times more addictive than cocaine and has caused an epidemic of diabetes and a slew of serious health problems associated with obesity. Still, I wouldnít want anyone to have the authority to tell you that you canít eat whatever you want.

You can go to a fast food restaurant and order a stomach full of chemical food and wash it down with a gallon of sugar syrup soda. Is that honoring Gods temple?? My answer would be no. But I want everyone to have the freedom to dishonor my God if they so choose as long as they donít physically harm anyone else. Perhaps you will non-physically hurt someoneís feelings in doing so but that should be your own choice.

The Law is to love your neighbor as yourself. I personally do not want any man to have authority to rule over me. And so I would be a hypocrite if I were to assume authority over another man to tell them what they can or canít do with their own body. Thatís the best way I know how to Ďlove my neighborí whom Iíve never met. Is to give them the room and freedom to work out this life how they see best and not impose my personal beliefs on them.

We will all be judged as individuals (or islands *dennis) and it will all work out just fine for everyone when itís all done. Until then I will make it my ambition to lead a quite life, work with my hands, and mind my business.

As far as cannabis being harmful... there are just too many variables to be able to make a blanket statement like that. Itís probably more true to say that cannabis is harmful to some people.. sometimes. And also that cannabis is harmless to some people.. sometimes. And even still that cannabis is beneficial for some people.. sometimes.

What is harmful, though, is using the power of the government (which is violence) to try and rule over your neighbor.. (sometimes or all the time, I donít know.)
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John from Kentucky

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Re: Cannabis being legalized...
« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2018, 06:51:52 PM »

We do not have free will or freedom to do this or that.

All that we do, we are compelled to do by forces which we do not control.

Only Jesus can set us free from sin.  Only then are we free.
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« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2018, 04:16:50 PM »

Back in the 80's Cannabis was 10% as powerful as it is today.

Nope !

The cops have no test to give high drivers

Yes there is - cops do it in Australia all the time now
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« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2018, 07:47:09 PM »

Itís ok Dennis , but cannabis has now been so over breed,cross germinated into hybrids that are given fancy names like ;
Girl Scout cookies
Green crack
Chimp glue
Bubble gum
Blueberry
Durban poison
Crown royale
And hundreds of other strains which some are ok , However in my opinion the landrace strains are much much better but no longer available . In the end making cannabis legal is really all about the money- hence the hundreds of strains 🙂
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« Reply #51 on: December 10, 2018, 09:02:33 PM »

Yeah, they just legalized the stuff in Michigan.  I know I don't want anything to do with it and frankly some of the people I know are loopy enough without it.  From what I know though there are some medical benefits for cancer patients and being a plant it probably isn't more harmful than some of those chemicals they come up with.  And of course State government is just thinking about all the money they can make by taxing the stuff.  I don't see any good coming from it but OTOH we saw how effective prohibition was back in the 1920's.  If people want the stuff they'll find a way to get it law or no law.
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« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2018, 04:08:17 PM »

Just a simple opinion based on 83 years of living.

A major problem is that well intentioned people who make and enforce laws, even church people, are trying to HELP drug users/offenders by putting them in jails with career criminals where they can study advanced ways to avoid being caught. At the same time mental health facilities are being closed due to the expense of operation under health care insurance regulations. Police departments are being overwhelmed with excessive time being spent on 2-5 grams of weed being confiscated and logged into police records etc. while more serious crimes are understandably ignored. People arrested for minor crimes are being held over for trial for weeks because they didn't have a $500.00 bond to post or a relative to lend them the money.

Correction of individuals works only when administered with real/sincere loving care with personal examples. No set of laws, not even God's laws will work effectively when applied outside of a concerned family environment.

We arrest and confine people who don't think like we believe they should so that we don't have to deal with them in our daily lives. Yes they are a problem, but putting them away and out of site is the cowards way of pretending to help.

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« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2018, 04:35:27 PM »

All I know is what I hear: https://www.businessinsider.com/is-weed-stronger-today-than-the-80s-2015-10

This article is inconclusive isnít it? The only thing they are confident about is that THC levels are higher today than in the 70ís. How much higher is not clear and the results are too inconsistent. Regardless. Words like Ďstrongerí Ďmore potentí are not in any way synonymous with Ďharmfulí or Ďdangerousí.

But that is how propaganda works.

ďAll I know is what I hearĒ? Really?

In the 1920ís you wouldíve heard that marijuana makes negroes think theyíre as good as white men.. you wouldíve heard that one puff of the marijuana will turn your loved one into a ravenous murdering lunatic.. Just 50 years ago ďTrue PhysiciansĒ (as JFK calls them) wouldíve told you itís completely harmless for your pregnant wife to smoke a pack of cigarettes a day..



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