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Kat:

Ray is not seeking a following.  Ray has been given a gift of decerning the scripture, and is sharing the understnading that God has given him.  This has brought a lot of condemnation on him, because people do not believe the scripture.  He has repeated time and again for someone to prove him wrong with two scripture.  No one has done this, because they can't. 

There are some who God leads to find bibletruth and He begins revealing the truth to them through Ray's teaching.  This is the way God has determined to do it.

1Co 1:21  For since, in the wisdom of God, the world by wisdom did not know God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save those who believe.

I look on Ray as a brother in Christ.  He knows a great deal more than I, so I study what he writes to learn what the scriptures say.  Maybe in a way I am a follower/imitator of Ray, because I would like to imitate how he serves Christ.  Ray studies and works on his papers constantly, hours every day.  As Paul said;

1Co 11:1  Be imitators of me, even as I also am of Christ.

Christ is first in my life, anyone that helps me get closer to Christ is someone I want to be apart of my life.  I am so blessed to know Ray, but he is not like a leader or superior, he's my friend.

mercy, peace, and love
Kat

Joey Porter:
L. Ray Smith certainly has been an instrumental vessel in all of our lives as we come into a deeper understanding of bible truths!  We all should thank God for this man.

But in keeping with the topic of the thread, I will follow that up with a friendly reminder that we all must be vigilant that we do not fall into the trap of following any man.  It does take deep careful inspection of ourselves to make sure that we do not do that. 

Remember that nearly the whole Christian world believes they ''only follow the bible'' or ''only follow Christ,'' but as we know they deceive themselves because they follow their traditions and denominational teachings.

Also remember that in Revelation John fell at the angel's feet to worship him.  That happened for a reason - as an example to us of how easily we can also begin to exalt man and traditions above God.  :)

DWIGHT:
Hi all,

We have been accused of being followers of a man.  I have always heard that we should never follow man and perhaps in most cases that's true.  But, the scriptures also teach this....

 "14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Rom. 10:14-17

"I" Corinthians 1:21 - For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe."

I'm like Arcturus, I have no desire to follow the man Ray Smith, my desire is to follow the Christ in Ray Smith.

12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul." I Cor. 12,13

Just following a man will produce nothing except division and strife; so we must always heed the word of the Lord, "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." Matt: 7:20.

I have seen a lot of good fruit being produced here, so I think I'll just follow along.

In Him,

Dwight







PKnowler:
I marvel at how like God it is to use a man of no reputation, or seminary degree, but a roofer, to teach and give revelation of His word.

I remember the first letters I read on Ray's site. The letter to Hagee and Kennedy. I knew that my paradigm was shifting because I was reading truth like I never had before. To me it was so plain it was indisputable. I was blown away by the spiritual wisdom and insight into God's word. I treaded carefully not sure what to think about Ray's writings at first but so awe inspired that I continued to read with fervor.

I came upon Ray's website as I was looking for information on God's sovereignty. I was having a hard time with the teachings of the church. I knew there was something missing. I remember watching a show called word pictures that touched on God's sovereignty but left me starving and my questions unanswered. I just didn't understand how we were suppose to choose God when no one can come to God unless He draws them. In reading Ray's writings he answered those questions and more that I've had that didn't make sense from Christiandom's teaching.

Before the Bible was like a book of contradictions that didn't make sense unless you discounted a part of scripture, which is what denominations do. I love how Ray explains the congruency of the Scriptures through teaching us The TWELVE GOD-GIVEN TRUTHS TO UNDERSTAND HIS WORD.

I am so thankful for the work that Ray has done for the Lord in bringing these truths to us. I notice many places I go on the internet I see ads for Bible-Truths. Ray has invested a lot of time and resources to bring these truths to us! God Bless you Ray!

I am also blessed by the moderators who take their time to moderate these boards. I'm sure that it is a great sacrifice of their time. Thank you and Bless you for the work you are doing.

I follow Christ as Ray has helped further reveal Him to me.


gmik:
Amen and Amen!!

ARe there chosen in every generation??  Who was their "Ray Smith"??

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