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Islam. (anyone know anything about Islam?)
YellowStone:
Pax, I am afraid that you might be a little mistaken with this. :)
This should be enough to get you started learning more about Islam. I do not wish to break any "teaching" rules -- I seek only to edify the body. Islam is no more our enemy than is Judaism, orthodox Christianity, Eastern Orthodoxy, Catholics, or anyone else who searches for the One. Hey, throw Jerry Falwell and Billy Graham on that list!
At least all of the religions you state with the exception of Islam believe in the fundamental right of every human being and that death to fellow humans is not a command of their God; but loving thy neighbor is.
I will now ask you a simple question, where would you rather your wife, daughter, sister, mother, etc. dressed in modern American clothing visit. A room full of radical Catholics in England or radical Islamists in Pakistan ?
All things being equal as you say, then it should not matter in the least. :)
Yet, I am sure it would matter, it would matter to me. We are told to love our neighbor, and I do, for it is very hard hating a creation of God. Yet I do not have to love their teaching, beliefs or their actions. To do so would be foolish, yet not nearly as foolish or reckless as allowing your wife, etc. anywhere near them.
God gave us a mind to reason and a heart to feel and there is a Scripture (that I can't find) that instructs a man to protect loved ones. I strongly believe placing loved ones in such a position with the premise that it is God's will if anything should happen is pretty sad! :( (NOT that you said that!!) :)
Mat 7:16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Mat 7:20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Just a different way of looking at it Pax.
Love to you,
Darren
mari_et_pere:
Here's another way of looking at it. I love the big wild cats of Africa; lions, leopards, tigers and what not. I love to see them, watch Animal Planet shows about them, whatever. Would I hang out with them? Uh, no probably not.
Pax, I, too, have studied about Islam and other religions. The history of Islam is fascinating. It's also brutal and bloody. Islam is most definitely THE most dangerous religion in all the world today. Islam hates the world. There is no "live and let live" in Islam. Do your homework on this. They'd rather see YOU dead than follow anything other than Al-Lah. Do you understand that if they had their way, (don't believe it then ask them) then if given the chance to force YOU to convert or die, an answer of, "no," would be your death warrant.
They think that "America" is the Great Satan. They hate us! With a vehement passion, they hate us and want us all to DIE. (and some of us have!) God forbid the day when all the Christians in America marched through the streets calling for death to all Arabs. Think about it.
If we want to be more like Jesus, maybe we should call wrong wrong.
Still thanking God I'm not Muslim,
Matt
Pax Vobiscum:
It is quite easy to combine believers and beliefs. The questions raised about Islam were just that. The answers I gave are sure and true.
If you will indulge me, I will make a couple of brief comments and then go back to my hole...
Gmik --
I am sorry that your son had such a bad experience. But these are views of people, not the religion. Can Christians cast the first stone at these folks?
Yellowstone --
The Qu'ran states the sanctity of life also.
As to my wife and daughters? I would rather they stay at home; but if they must choose, then it does not matter to me at all. That's not a dodge at all.
mari-et-pere --
There is such hate in the tone of your post that it alone almost kept me from responding. Yes the history of Islam is fascinating, bloody and brutal (I cannot think of a successful civilization who cannot make the same claim). I do not believe that Islam is the most dangerous religion in the world today. Islam does not hate the world. "Live and let live" is a basic tenet of Islam and central to the 5 Pillars. I have done my homework (and have graded homework) and actually, Jews and Christians are protected under and by Islamic doctrine.
Some writers refer to the US as the Great Satan -- but this is not because of our supposed religious affiliations. They hate us for reasons other than that.
Let's let this drop, OK? I just wanted to help the original post get started learning about Islam.
Peace
mari_et_pere:
Pax, I'll let the Islam debate drop; I care not. All that baloney is in God's hands.
But I'll take the time to defend myself by saying that I am 100% hate free. I don't hate any human. That's a sin that I can honestly say I don't succumb to anymore. Just thought I'd drop that seed for ya because you took my reply as having a hateful tone.
gmik:
Pax you must have misunderstood me. My son had a wondeful experience in Pakistan. He loved and fellowshipped w/ the PEOPLE.
Matt, you didn't sound hateful to me. Just calling a spade a spade. Darren good points.
I think islam is one of the many daughters of the harlot and we are to come out from her.
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