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Oblivion582:
I don't have a problem with people flaming other people. I usually get a kick out of it anyway. But when you claim to be like Jesus because you ACT all big and bad to someone who is NOT trying to go against you, or your beliefs, is pretty lame, in my opinion. But now that I think everyone has made some valid points, lets get back to the original subject.
--- Quote ---Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints.
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Psalm 116:15
I know this doesn't say "as soon as a godly person dies, he goes to heaven" but I was wondering what do yall think?
I was watching tv last night and wouldn't you know it...they were talking about when christians die they go to heaven and they used this verse with a few others.
skydreamers:
--- Quote ---There is a HUGE false teaching that hooks onto the soul with cords of sentimentality and carnal feel good emotions that are far from the intimacy with Christ and very near to the affections of man that I see in a battle for credibility. The do goodie feel goodie two shoes v/s the carrying of the cross brethren of Christ who have come out of Babylon.
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Arcturus my dear sister, I do understand what you are saying. I'm not at all suggesting that we need to act in some false extreme and be "lovey dovey", or as I like to say it "mushy gushy" ; :D. I do have a sense of humour though I may not always show it! But my understanding of what Ray is saying still stands. He directs his sarcasm to those who are prideful, blind to the truth, and what's more important, are passing off their babylonian lies to others with a "know it all attitude". While I agree we can expose heresy, lies, and sins, not every situation warrants that we do this with sarcastic criticism (the woman at the well, and the adultress woman come to mind). If you detect a wall of pride and an unwillingness to learn, then by all means fire away. But everyone processes information differently, and some, I believe are sincerely and honestly struggling.
I'm also not suggesting that those who have been given some thoughtful guidance to the right studies and information, should irritatingly continue with their same questions without doing some work and giving it time and prayer. I know some of the things I have had a frustrating time understanding, have hit me sometime later in total clarity. I have learned God works like that with me, so that I'll never forget the revelation comes directly from him, and not from my own supposed "intelligence".
Anyways, thank you for your kind words Arcturus, and know that I too appreciate your posts and insights. I have always had a pull to root for the underdog, since I've always felt like one myself. But I probably should have stayed silent on this issue since I know for a fact God has not given me the kind of discernment some have in calling people out. Besides, the moderators know how to do this best, and kudos to them.
Peace and love to you sister, and to everyone else!
Diana
Jackie Lee:
The Bible mentions many kinds of tongues:
a flattering tongue (Psalm 5:9)
a proud tongue (Psalm 12:3; 73:9)
a lying tongue (Psalm 109:2; Prov. 6:17)
a deceitful tongue (Psalm 120:2)
a perverted tongue (Prov. 10:31; 17:20)
a soothing tongue (Prov. 15:4)
a healing tongue (Prov. 12:18)
a destructive tongue (Prov. 17:4)
a mischievous and wicked tongue (Psalm 10:7)
a soft tongue (Prov. 25:15)
a backbiting tongue (Prov. 25:23)
James also talks about the tongue. He says it's a small part of the body, and yet it boasts of great things. He calls the tongue a fire, the very world of iniquity. James says it is untameable, a restless evil full of deadly poison, used both to bless God and to curse men. But James also told us that a man who doesn't stumble in what he says is a perfect man. (James 3:2-10)
The tongue is unruly we just need to know how to use it for each circumstance.
seminole:
Excellent point and well made!
Brett:
--- Quote from: Falconn003 on July 22, 2007, 03:43:41 AM ---1 body + 1 SPIRIT = 1 living soul
(o)
b s { spirit ((LEAVES body goes back to God))
>---o p ---< /
d i /
(bullet)---------- ~ + y r EQUALS =
0 i \ I
0 t \ I /
/ \ { (o)body00 (( is buried, decays, returns to dust))
I \
peace and understanding I
Rodger
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Thanks Rodger for the picture to understand, not complete understand yet, but understand better more than before. It's good. You know I was thinking about this verse (Matt. 10:28) like Jesus said men can kill body but not able to kill soul unless God can, right. One body and one spirit equal living soul. Okay, so, how can men kill only body (dead) as unconscious and at the same time the soul (men unable kill the soul) still living soul (not dead) as conscious? Know what I mean? If not understand my question, let me know and I will try more clear another sentence. I remember I send e-mail to Ray about soul in two years ago, I will look for it and paste it in the same post.
This verse is the most difficult understand for me for long time even before (spiritual blindness) and after (remove spiritual blindness). I let it go and not to worry about it until I saw your picture. That is how I'm curious this. ;D
Brett :D
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