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called and chosen
worm:
what I've learnt recently is that the "overcomers" (elect, chosen) are those who love unconditionally (agape love) and those who forgive unconditionally, even when they crucify you...
"Father forgive them cause they don't know what they're doing"
It has NOTHING to do with what happens on the outside, but what comes from our insides and how we deal with our fellow man
ertsky:
worm
what i've learned recently is that if you see false and misleading doctrine and don't say anything about it, and yet claim to love Christ, then you are a hypocrite.
and that a very important part of the definition of love is being faithful to the teaching of Christ.
1Ti 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
that if you care more about peoples "feelings" than Truth then you are a hypocrite.
i've learned that if you are honest and call it as God gives you eyes to see it then there are those who will be offended and hate Christ in you
Luk 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
Luk 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
Luk 6:24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
Luk 6:25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
Luk 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
worm i'm learning obedience by the things i suffer, how about you ?
i've learned that if you see a lie and say nothing you are a hypocrite.
this is what i hear the Lord teaching me
Eze 3:9 As an adamant harder than flint have I made thy forehead: fear them not, neither be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house.
Eze 3:17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.
Eze 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
Eze 3:19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
Col 3:22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
Col 3:23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
Col 3:24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
Col 3:25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.
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Laren:
Learning obedienced by the things we suffer is good. But why suffer? Paul continuously stressed that his suffering, his daily death was for a very important reason, and that was the salvation of others. It was not about him, but about others. He suffered for others salvation. That is love. His life goal was to be humbled so Christ through him would reveal the gospel to others, and that people would continue to stay firm in the gospel.
2Co 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort;
2Co 1:4 who comforteth us in all our affliction, that we may be able to comfort them that are in any affliction, through the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.
2Co 1:5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound unto us, even so our comfort also aboundeth through Christ.
2Co 1:6 But whether we are afflicted, it is for your comfort and salvation; or whether we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which worketh in the patient enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer:
2Co 1:6 But whether we are afflicted, it is for your comfort and salvation; or whether we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which worketh in the patient enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer:
When Paul speaks of running the race, to me it is the race of staying true to the Gospel, but not for himself, but to see others come to maturity in Christ. This was the prize he ran for. His prize was knowing others were coming to a saving knowledge of Christ. He didnt' just preach it, he lived it.
Just as Christ suffered and died for us (and he willingly did so out of love), Paul willingly suffered and died daily for the salvation of others.
He lived his life for others. He became all things to all men to advance the gospel.
For me, I see that I have suffered immensely in the last three years, but that suffering is still about me and God, I am always thinking about how much closer I am to him, and how he has revealed himself to me through suffering. But I havent' gotten to the point of others salvation and growth and being more important than my own. Still more beast to be kicked off the throne.
Laren:
Just thot a few other great scriptures.
2Co 4:10 always bearing about in the body the dying of Jesus, that the life also of Jesus may be manifested in our body.
2Co 4:11 For we who live are always delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus may be manifested in our mortal flesh.
2Co 4:12 So then death worketh in us, but life in you.
God bless
ertsky:
hmmmm
--- Quote ---He lived his life for others. He became all things to all men to advance the gospel.
--- End quote ---
and yet we read (Paul was a whole counsel man of God)(sum of the Word not some of the Word)
1Ti 1:20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.
2Ti 4:14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
2Ti 4:15 Of whom be thou ware also; for he hath greatly withstood our words.
try and love everybody but don't be blind some kinda people try to mess with your mind
--- Quote ---what I've learnt recently is that the "overcomers" (elect, chosen) are those who love unconditionally (agape love) and those who forgive unconditionally
--- End quote ---
define love and be sure to include these verses
1Co 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
define love unconditionally and be sure to include the following
Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye ********, and not sons.
Heb 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
Heb 12:10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
Heb 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
this is what i hear
1Ti 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
definition above vague allusion
doctrine above personalities
simplicity openess and godly sincerity
honesty transparency and
NO GUILE, NO DUPLICATE
2Co 1:12 For our rejoicing is this, the testimony of our conscience, that in simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom, but by the grace of God, we have had our conversation in the world, and more abundantly to you-ward.
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