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To pastor Tony Smith at thewayofgodchurch.com
Bradigans:
--- Quote from: NJKen on August 17, 2008, 02:37:05 PM ---Amen and thank you for everyone's responses!!! I have been separated from my wife and 7 year old daughter and living in my brother's dental office for the past 5 months because of my temper (flesh) not because of my wife's unbelief or not acknowledging me as the head of the family. Only God can open her eyes to the truth. I need to be an example to my family of the faith and trust I put in my "head", so in turn, they will put their faith and trust in their "head". As I once heard "A King never has to yell". So true!!! The more I let go of my family and turn them over to God, the more God shows me that I can trust him and put my faith in him. This fiery trial is first and foremost because all else is moot unless the order of the family is established. Whatever "issues" may be in our families, once the proper order of the family gets established, all else falls into place. This is the one "central" issue governing all other issues. My relationship with my family is in direct corelation to my relationship with God. If I have a lousy relationship with my family (which I do) I have a lousy relationship with God. Praise God for opening my eyes to the truth of my wickedness and foolishness!!!!! 2 Timothy 2:20-26; 1 Corinthians 3; Romans 11:30,31; Galations 1:24; 1 Peter 4:12-19. There have been many times over the course of the past 10 years that I have had the Egyptian army behind me and the Red Sea in front of me. I would stomp my foot, yell and complain. That is not the way for a "head" to show faith and trust to his "head". God has shown me his grace and mercy many times and it has been a slow and tedious process. But, as we know, we are not "saved" as Babylon once taught us, we are "being" saved by the grace of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Ken
P.S. By the way, if anyone needs any Listerine (I have all the flavors) please let me know!!!!!! Ha! Ha!!
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Amen!!!
Bradigans:
--- Quote from: Kat on August 17, 2008, 03:44:52 PM ---
Hi Bradford,
You are getting counsel from a minister of the church ??? You should weight very carefully the reasons behind leaving your wife and children, as something that seems right it your own eyes. That sin could be worse than your reason for leaving.
1Tim 5:8 But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
Mat 19:8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
v. 9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication (porneia - sexual immorality, immorality), and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
This Scripture does give those married to someone who comments sexual immoralities or is in an abusive situation a way out.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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Thank you and God bless...
IN HIS LOVE
joyful1:
Bradford
Did I miss something? Is your wife "pleased to dwell with you," despite your difficulties? In that case, I believe we are not to "seek to be loosed" from our spouses.
Just trying to add to the understanding already here--
I've probably missed something--sorry if I have.
Joyce :)
Bradigans:
--- Quote from: joyful1 on August 17, 2008, 07:13:25 PM ---Bradford
Did I miss something? Is your wife "pleased to dwell with you," despite your difficulties? In that case, I believe we are not to "seek to be loosed" from our spouses.
Just trying to add to the understanding already here--
I've probably missed something--sorry if I have.
Joyce :)
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Thanks....
tebza4jesus:
Hi Bradford,
I read your open letter to Pastor Tony Smith, and I thought I too will tell what I know, for I am full of words, and the spirit within me compels me! I maybe young of years and very much unmarried, but does that disqualify me for saying anything? I guess no, for it is the spirit in man, the breath of the Almighty, that gives him understanding. Let me share with you my understanding!
The All-knowing God, has not only known your future wife before you or she were born, but the Almighty has brought you two together, having declared all concerning your life from the beginning. And He has always known that this moment where you are contemplating leaving your wife will come. This is no mistake in God's for He is infallible.
Couple His infallibility with His unchanging LOVE for all sinners (including you and I), and you will realise He will never sit down to plan to TORMENT you just for the sake of STRESSING you. Understanding that, will help you to have confidence in ALL His plans for you, including the choice of WIFE for you!
Many times, when we are troubled (which actually means, things don't go OUR way), we tend to make the mistake of taking decisions based on what we "PREFER" other that anything else. "I LIKE/PREFER a woman who is submissive to me. I think marriage life will be better if I had such a woman." I want a woman who believes the same as I do."
These are just simple examples of how we go about making our decisions, and as you can see they are always prefaced by that beast of the heart, I.
It's always about what I and never really about what does the POTTER want.
Could it be that this "thorn in the flesh" is there to a pruning tool unto me? Could it be "a vessel of dishonour" that the LORD has created to use in disciplining, moulding or testing me?
This aspect of the TRUTH we are not accustomed to think of that easily and often for the inclination of men's hearts is purely evil all the time, but it's the TRUTH there, for everyone who has love for TRUTH to accept.
I DO NOT DOUBT IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER THAT THE WOMAN YOU ARE MARRIED TO IS GOD'S CHOICE FOR YOU AND I ADVISE YOU TO STAY WITH HER.
There is a story in the O.T. concerning David, Nabal and Abigail, which I would like you to go through! It's a lovely story, simple and short!
David had been helping Nabal by looking over his flocks - offering protection. When David needed help as far as food is concerned, Nabal wouldn't help. David was furious and threatened to avenge HIMSELF.
I am bringing this story up just to show you that even a man after God's own doesn't LIKE it when things doen't go HIS WAY, such that HE will decide to take matters in HIS OWN HANDS. (I will kill Nabal).
But God has a plan, with Abigail coming and bringing wise unto David, he relented and chose to allow God to avenge him (May God's will be done)!
It was not long before Nabal was dead and listen to David's words when he heard that in 1 Samuel 25:39 (NIV)
"When David heard that Nabal was dead, he said, "Praise be to the LORD, who has upheld my cause against Nabal for treating me with contempt. He has kept his servant from doing wrong and has brought Nabal's wrongdoing down on his own head." Then David sent word to Abigail, asking her to become his wife." (Emphasis mine)
Hear me clearly, I am not saying you are David, or that your wife is Nabal! All I am saying is that WHEN THINGS DON'T GO ACCORDING TO THE WAY WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO GO, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE THINK THAT WE ARE RIGHT AND OTHERS ARE WRONG, (LIKE "SHE'S NOT SUBMISSIVE AS A WIFE SHOULD"), WE SHOULD SIMPLY LET GOD TO DEAL WITH THE "CULPRITS", UPHOLDING YOUR CAUSE. LEY THE LORD KEEP YOU FROM DOING WRONG AND MAY HE BRING NABAL'S WRONGDOING UPON HIS HEAD."
I hope I am clear! That's my advise to you. Endure the conditions you don't like ((like an "unsubmissive" wife) and let God fight for you!
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