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ScarletWren:
Good post, Christ.

I think there are two different greek words used in describing God's intention/will.  One is thelema, I can't recall the other.  I tried to access the greek lexicon I have a link to but it wouldn't come up.  But one we can go against, the other we can't.  What a great God we serve!!!

Richard D:
Chris

Thank you for responding to my post. I learned from what you said about all go against God’s will but no one goes against God’s propose. I find comfort in this realizing everything is of God.

No, I don’t understand what I said but I understand I’m right where God wants me to be, even when I’m adding or subtracting I’m fulfilling God’s propose regardless of what I think I’m doing in anything.

And always going against God’s will. In myself I’m irrelevant but to God I’m relevant. So what can I say, if I live I live to God and if I die I die to God. All is of God.

aqrinc:

Bump

Geo.

Kat:

I found a couple of email that I thought would fit in this thread.

http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1525.0.html ---

We must distinguish between God's "will" as a noun meaing His ultimate purpose and destination of things, and God's "plan" to achieve His "will."  It is God's will that mankind live righteously, but it is His purpose, plan, and intention that they first live UNrighteously.  The first is a necessary precursor to achieve the second. God commands men to do the impossible.  This too is a necessary precursor for man's learning. We must be humbled in our utter inability to do God's perfect will, before we will ever repent of our weakness and wickedness.  And understand that God does not force us to sin. We sin voluntarily from our hearts, and in so doing it is only right and good that we should be punished for sinning. Our hearts and minds must be converted from what they are into the Image of God's Son.

God be with you,
Ray

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,6562.0.html ----

Many people feel like you do, Chris, and I receive hundreds of emails stating the same. Actually there are many more thousands who read my site and feel the same but are ashamed to admit it in writing.  It is good to feel as you do for whatever period God deems necessary. Many ask me how to be a PERFECT servant of God, TODAY?  The answer is, God will bring you along and take you through the things that He has already foreknown for you from before the foundation of the world, and nothing you can do or think or say will change God's plan or hurry it up. Nobody wants to suffer in the flesh, not physically, financially, socially, mentally, morally, emotionally, or spiritually.  Yet it is God purpose for us to go through these things.  "...It is an experience of EVIL God has given to the sons of humanity to HUMBLE them by it"  (Ecc. 1:13, Concordant Old Testament Version).
 
God is with you Chris, even when you think that maybe He isn't.

Gal 6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

God be with you,
Ray

Richard D:
Kat

Thank you for responding to my post. I know in my heart and from experience this wonderful insight pertaining to the things of God would not have been possible in the places I use to worship in.

Sometimes I wonder saying Lord there probably shaking their heads at me with these post I post but the care and love and understanding in which my post receives the responses I need is God’s way of saying to me, you see, everything is alright.

As I dwell on these things I cannot help but to see the love of God working in the lives of all here.  :)

Thank you once again Kat. You’re friend and brother in our Lord. Richard.

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