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Triton:
Joe,

Your posts on this thread speaks to my heart and I have been thinking along the same lines.

When He says that ALL will be saved, we know that He means ALL. I have come to see the truth of this.

Acts 3:21 mentions the RESTITUTION of ALL THINGS. I put my hope in this scripture
along with the thoughts and scripture that Joe has mentioned.

I have an extreme affinity towards animals. It's something which started growing along the same time
as when I started seeing what His Word was really saying to us.

Paul

hillsbororiver:
You are very welcome Jim.

Thank you Paul, excellent addition by the way (Acts 3:21)!

Here are a few more verses that have led me to strongly consider this wonderful *possibilty.

*Mat 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Neh 9:6 Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest (H2421) them all; and the host of heaven worshipeth thee.

H2421
חיה
châyâh
khaw-yaw'
A prim root (compare H2331, H2424); to live, whether literally or figuratively; causatively to revive: - keep (leave, make) alive, X certainly, give (promise) life, (let, suffer to) live, nourish up, preserve (alive), quicken, recover, repair, restore (to life), revive, (X God) save (alive, life, lives), X surely, be whole.

Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fullness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

Jam 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures(G2938).

G2938
κτίσμα
ktisma
ktis'-mah
From G2936; an original formation (concretely), that is, product (created thing): - creature.

Peace,

Joe

fox:
Hi All,

The following verse that Joe brought up is the one of many mentioned that I finally always land on when researching this area.

"Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes (ever shed tears for an animal?); and there shall be no more death (are only animals still dead?), neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain (I still have sorrow for all the cats, dogs, etc. that I loved and eventually died): for the former things are passed away (no more death, period)."

I have thought about this topic a great deal. Some of the best companions that I have ever had were dogs/cats. The
only way that I can see that I would not still miss and grieve for them in the future is if (1) my memories of them
were erased or (2) I was given a lobotomy so that I just did not care any more. I hate to think that either would
happen since I would no longer be "me" in either circumstance.

Regards,
fox

Deborah-Leigh:
God is a God of Mercy and Love. Surely Heaven can not be a realm where our pets have been annihilated?

Our precious animals have their own innocence and personalities that I believe shall be restored to us in other forms of Spirit and not excluded or eliminated. The possibilities are endless.

1 Cor 15 :19 If we who are abiding in Christ have hope only in this life and that is all, then we are of all people most miserable and to be pitied.

Arc

hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: SandyFla on March 10, 2009, 09:59:24 PM ---
There are verses that say the lion shall lie down with the lamb, also mentioning other creatures, so I take that to mean my "girls" will be welcome into God's kingdom.

--- End quote ---

--- Quote from: Marky Mark on March 11, 2009, 08:55:27 AM ---
Sandy,here are verses of which you speak of.Profoundly Spiritual in nature.

1Samuel 17:34 And David said unto Saul, Thy servant kept his father's sheep, and there came a lion, and a bear, and took a lamb out of the flock:

Isaiah 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

Isaiah 65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith Jehovah.

--- End quote ---

Hi Mark,

Not seeking any confrontation or debate but are there any scriptural witnesses saying that this cannot be a twofold (multi layered) prophecy? My point is that we all know the difference between spiritual Israel (elect) and physical Israel, but is it not true that both will ultimately be in His Kingdom?

Won't all those who ever lived in physical, earthly Jerusalem also at some point be in the spiritual New Jerusalem?

Yes we have it written that first the natural then the spiritual but does that really mean the types and shadows of our physical experience are going to be totally erased? My question would be "so what is/was the purpose of the natural types and shadows if they are not to be fulfilled in an unimaginably better way in His Kingdom?"

This topic may be a source of amusement or derision for some of us but for others it is a real concern as our life experiences have been enhanced and perhaps even been prolonged by the direct result of the companionship God has provided through our pets and even wildlife.

The following Words are not mine, but our Lord's;

Mat 10:29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.

Luk 12:6 Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God?

Please bear with me if I have made too much of an issue about this topic but I must admit that I have a very strong bond with the animals God has generously put in my journey and I cannot imagine He would have created such wonderful companions only to dispose of them like used Kleenex.

Thank you for your consideration.

Peace,

Joe

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