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Craig:

--- Quote from: Becky ---are they going to ban us all for asking?... just a question....  :|
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Becky and all,

No less than 3 times has Dennis posted and asked us to drop the subject, that now is not the time to speculate and start rumors about things that none of us know what is going on anyway.  Myself included.

The people who have been banned could not let it go and posted PMs (PRIVATE messages) and emails of converstations that may not tell the whole story, leading to more questions and speculation.

Dennis nor any of the mods have asked anyone to take sides over this isssue.  Ray has said, and Dennis posted, he will answer in the future, now is not the time.   So for now let's move on.

Let me say one thing though that is causing me some concern.  Doctrines are formed when someone gets revelation of a biblical truth.  We then tend to take this ball and run with it, making the rest of the scriptures to fit into our preconceived mold.  

I fear that, Is Was and Will Be (the idea, NOT the website or Mike), is becoming a doctrine unto itself.  There is truth to this very compelling and wonderful way of looking at scripture, but you can't pull every scripture out of the air and spritualize it to conform to this truth.
I see some of us here starting to do just this.  I pray that we all follow in the real truths of God and not the doctrines that our human natures wish to adhere to.  

Please, Please, Please do not take this a me throwing a barb at Mike because that is not my intention at all.  This has nothing to do with Ray or Mike's problems, just my own observation.

I hope that nobody else is ever banned here, but you must leave this alone for now.

Blessings

Craig

mercie:
Craig

 
May I ask having read Rays work and Mike s


One of the ways to Understanding scripture is Thus:

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Spirit teaches; COMPARING [or ‘matching’] SPIRITUAL THINGS WITH SPIRITUAL" (I Cor. 2:13).

"And to this AGREE the words of the prophets; as it is written…" (Acts 15:15).

[C] "These [Bereans]… searched the Scriptures daily, whether those things were SO [Gk: ‘in this way,’ ‘like’] (Acts 17:11).

[D] "AS You have sent Me into the world, EVEN SO have I sent them into the world" (John 17:18, and many, many other such comparisons).


Or do we all Sit at Rays feet and wait on Him to reveal it?

Please dont take this personally, Im just curious , as There is No desire to Rock the Boat .

Ive been Blessed by many writings of Both Men and the  by the Input of others Here while sitting in the wings.

Many Thanks

Steve Crook:
Well, please remove me from the forums before I too am banned, but please let these scriptures, from the Word of God, stay up.

Mat 26:39  And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

Jer 25:15  For thus saith the LORD God of Israel unto me; Take the wine cup of this fury at my hand, and cause all the nations, to whom I send thee, to drink it.

Jer 49:12  For thus saith the LORD; Behold, they whose judgment was not to drink of the cup have assuredly drunken; and art thou he that shall altogether go unpunished? thou shalt not go unpunished, but thou shalt surely drink of it.

Mat 20:22  But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.
Mat 20:23  And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with:

Mar 14:36  And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.

Luk 22:17  And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:

1Pe 4:12  Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

Heb 12:6  For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Heb 12:7  If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

Isa 54:7  For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.
Isa 54:8  In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.

Mat 27:46  And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Craig:

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Or do we all Sit at Rays feet and wait on Him to reveal it?

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I will not even answer this question.  Is that the way you really think I/we study and search???

 :cry:
Craig

Craig:

--- Quote from: Steve Crook ---Well, please remove me from the forums before I too am banned, but please let these scriptures, from the Word of God, stay up.

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Why would you say this??

Craig

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