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Will We Ever 'See' the Father?
AK4:
Hi everyone, long time no speak for me but ive always been here.
Anyway ive been thinking on this a long time myself and i always wondered on the promises made in the scriptures that God will fulfill all our hopes and dreams and wishes. Personally, i believed this always because this was always taught even in "babylon" but even after reading the scriptures all these years and never "seeing" this phrase before i wondered if it really says this in scripture, then comes Rays teaching "YOU GOT TO PAY ATTENTION TO ALL THE WORDS". So while rereading the same scriptures ive read countless times i find many places, especially in the Psalms saying He will fulfill our desires and that believers will see God.
Well at first i took the believers "will see God" as yes we will see Jesus, our Lord and God but since we have been shown the truth about the falseness of the trinity, could this also mean we will at sometime see the Father?--- i add in the fact of that God will fulfill all of our wishes and desires and i truly believe that most of us desire and wish that one day or at some time in the coming eons we get to see the Father. The only thing i could think of that this "wish of some of ours" doesnt come to pass is that it was never in Gods will for this to happen or its not in the "rules" He set. For example there are some hopes and dreams man has but they just violate the set rules or standards God has set (like travelling to the past) so maybe this one could be that case. Personally i hope and wish and dream that we will someday see the Father.
One last point, our thoughts and dreams and wishes do not originate on their own and it was God who has made some of us have this hope or wish so maybe.... I dont know, just my two cents
Anyway, i miss posting with you guys and nice talking to yas again. Hopefully God moves me more to posting.
In Jesus
Anthony
Kat:
Hi Grape,
We are all just discussing what our preceptions are at this time. My comments were not directed at what you were saying in any way to disaparage your understanding. I was merely putting forth where my own understanding had developed from. As you said and I agree, "Now, each perspective has its own Perception, because we internalise what we see and conclude a perception based on that perspective.
It's good to hear all of our different preceptions on a matter, much food for though 8)
mercy, peace and love
Kat
daywalker:
--- Quote from: grapehound on June 28, 2011, 06:52:51 PM ---I think we may be getting bogged down here with the 'treachery of words'!
Words are pretty clumsy things when it comes to expressing infinitely finer meanings.
And I've just read Daywalkers post in the middle of this and this whole caboodle seems to have gone off the rails! LOL! I'm not in disagreement with either of you!
Muchest Luv
Grape x
--- End quote ---
Oops, I did it again! Sorry, Grape! My posted wasn't directed "at" you nor was it intended as "debatin' words" of any sort. I was actually thinking about some weird stuff I've read/heard from other people, outside of the forum; reading through this thread and contemplating what different people said sparked my memory, which caused me to ramble a bit. Apologies for the confusion.
Daywalker 8)
grapehound:
Kat and Chris, I was just reading my last response over and my phrasing does read a little 'edgy' and gives the impression that I was a bit 'cut'. Not intentional.
I was overtired at the end of a long day and wasn't choosing my words very well!
I love you both very much and know just how loving and sensitive you both are.
I'm always impressed by the quality of your individual input.
His richest blessings to you both. :) :)
Muchest Luv
Grape xx
daywalker:
--- Quote from: grapehound on June 29, 2011, 05:04:05 AM ---Kat and Chris, I was just reading my last response over and my phrasing does read a little 'edgy' and gives the impression that I was a bit 'cut'. Not intentional.
I was overtired at the end of a long day and wasn't choosing my words very well!
I love you both very much and know just how loving and sensitive you both are.
I'm always impressed by the quality of your individual input.
His richest blessings to you both. :) :)
Muchest Luv
Grape xx
--- End quote ---
Right back at ya! ;)
Christopher
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