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Will We Ever 'See' the Father?
Rene:
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There are no definite right or wrong answers. You can answer a simple yes/no or comment further if you feel lead to. Just would like to hear your thoughts.
Thanks
Marques
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Yes, I believe we will see the Father, even if I don't know at this time what seeing Him really means. ;)
Thanks, Marques, if nothing else, this thread motivated me to listen to that bible study again. As always, I got a lot out of it and felt inspired and uplifted. :)
René
onelovedread:
I say yes. Here's why I think so. 1 Thessalonians 4: 17 "After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.". Seems to me that if we're going to be with the Lord (the Son) forever, then it implies that we will be in the presence of the Father and therefore will be able to see Him.
sansmile:
Well Rene, Christ, i beleived said, if u have seen me u have seen the Father and even Christ Himself shall be given a new name one day and all power will be HANDED back to the FATHER so that all will be in all.
(1Co 15:28) And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Sandie x
Joel:
I think we will see the Father also.
Being in the "presence" of God as seen in the various references in the Bible helps me to know, that to be there is something not to be taken lightly.
Adam and Eve were made to leave the presence of God after being in Eden, and their contact with God became less and less, and they did come to know evil more and more.
Moses's face is said to have glowed, or made to shine after being in such close contact with God on the mount.
The angel Gaberial is said to "stand in the presence of God." Gods power, and Glory can no doubt be felt, And I think have a "center" for the lack of a better word.
Jesus is the Word of God, and a body was prepared for him to do the things required of him during his physical existence here on this earth, so why could God the Father not appear to his sons and daughters if he chose to do so? With God all things are possible, while keeping in mind that nothing can contain his greatness and limit him in any way.
Nothing can or will surpass the presence, closeness, and fellowship to be had with the Father, and the Son, in that Godly relationship that is to come. :)
Joel
indianabob:
Daywalker,
re; God's form or no form?
My Greek/English has the following in Jn 5:37b.
"....Neither sound of him ever yet you have heard nor visible form of him you have seen"
It would seem that this wording does not necessarily prove that God utters sound or has a form that would be visible.
It just says that the reader or the person being spoken to has never heard God speak or seen God. It would include others as well.
Based on this section of scripture alone, I think the question is still unsatisfied.
The point of the text may be to discourage folks from thinking that God speaks to them audibly by vibrating the air as opposed to putting thoughts in their heart.
Also, consider maybe God communicates mind to mind in the full spiritual realm after we are changed.
Please comment, Indiana Bob
--- Quote from: daywalker on June 27, 2011, 06:34:24 PM ---
I would say, "yes", we will SEE the Father someday. Here's my thinking:
"See how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God; and such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is." 1 John 3:2
Now, some could use Christ's statement that "He who has seen Me has seen the Father" as a counter. However, I believe this next verse further supports my stance:
"Not that anyone has seen the Father, except the One who is from God; He has SEEN the Father." John 6:47
How did Christ ever "see" the Father? It wouldn't make sense for Him to say He's seen the Father "through" Himself (Jesus). So, then, I'd say that, Yes, Jesus has actually (somehow) seen the Father visibly. And if we are to become exactly like Christ is, then I'd say, just as Christ has "seen" the Father, so shall we.
And, furthermore:
"And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form." John 5:37
Notice that Jesus never said the Father does not have a "voice", and He never said the Father does not have a "form"; He just said we've never "heard" or "seen" them.
so that's my thoughts...
Daywalker 8)
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