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Kat:
Hi musicman,
This 1000 years, could this be symbolic of a human lifespan? Before the floor people could live that long. So maybe this 1000 years that Christ will rule on earth is allowing for a person that lived 1000 years (preflood) to have a 1000 years to be corrected. Just a thought.
It seems to me that the first resurrection is a very special reward only for those few that faithfully endure to the end in this age. Those that are part of the marriage supper (Rev. 19:9), that ride in on white horses with Christ (Rev. 19:14), those whose names are in the Book of life (Rev. 3:5), these few chosen Elect were destined to rule with Christ and it seems that the first resurrection is only for those few.
Eph 1:5 He destined us in love to be His sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of His will,
Eph 1:6 to the praise of his glorious grace which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved.
Eph 1:9 For He has made known to us in all wisdom and insight the mystery of His will, according to His purpose which He set forth in Christ
Eph 1:10 as a plan for the fulness of time, to unite all things in Him, things in heaven and things on earth.
Eph 1:11 In Him, according to the purpose of Him who accomplishes all things according to the counsel of his will,
Eph 1:12 we who first hoped in Christ have been destined and appointed to live for the praise of His glory.
I can see that there will be those who will enter the kingdom pretty quick after Christ returns. I would think John the Baptist would enter really quickly. But he is not part of the first resurrection or the kingdom at Christ return, that reward is only for the few.
Mat 11:11 Verily I say to you, there hath not risen, among those born of women, a greater than John the Baptist, but he who is least in the reign of the heavens is greater than he.
All those resurrected of the dead will be made subject to Christ and brought to be one with God as they are taught righteousness.
1Co 15:25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27 For "He has put all things under His feet." But when He says "all things are put under Him," it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.
1Co 15:28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
Isa 26:9 With my soul I have desired You in the night, Yes, by my spirit within me I will seek You early; For when Your judgments are in the earth, The inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
Just some more thoughts :)
mercy, peace and love
Kat
CEO:
I love this conversation.
The timing of each individual's resurrection day varies, and the length of time and severity of judgment varies.
Think of the parable of Lazarus and the rich man-one had already crossed the gulf into immortality, the other not. Abraham was already there.
Ray's letter to Hagee spells out the eons and their order. Christ rules for the last two, the millenium and the new heaven/earth. Satan comes after the end of the thousand years (Rev 20:7) then judgment on the earth; in the last eon.
Also the festivals of the wavesheaf, the firstfruits and the great harvest are indicators that resurrection occurs over time.
Here is a thought, Matt.24:22, and unless those days be shortened no flesh would be saved but for the elect's sake those days will be shortened-
Why would it be beneficial to the elect for flesh to be saved? Maybe the millenial reign will be over flesh, kingly rule. Maybe the new heaven/earth will be the great white throne, judging.
I love this conversation.
askseeknock
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okjohnson:
Then , why does David believe he will be resurrected in a spiritual body.
Psalm 17:15 I -- in righteousness, I see Thy face; I am satisfied, in awaking, [with] Thy form!
(Young's Literal Translation)
Kat:
Hi Orlando,
As I was looking at this verse, I can see what you were thinking it says. That David is speaking of awaking in the resurrection "with Your image" or that David would be in the spiritual form of God?
I believe what David is saying is that when he awakes at the resurrection he will behold God. Not be like Him, but see Him.
Look at some other translations that will help you see how this is being spoken by David.
Psa 17:15 As for me, I shall behold thy face in righteousness; when I awake, I shall be satisfied with beholding thy form. (RSV)
Psa 17:15 And I--in righteousness I will see your face; when I awake, I will be satisfied with seeing your likeness. (NIV)
Psa 17:15 I, in righteousness, shall behold thy face, Shall be satisfied when awakened by a vision of thee. (Rotherham)
Psa 17:15 But I will see you, because I have done no wrong; and when I awake, your presence will fill me with joy. (GNB)
mercy, peace and love
Kat
jackson:
"I'd rather have Grace than Justice anyday."
A very good friend said this to me just this morning and I've been meditating on it all day. I too have an opinion on this subject but thats all it is and possibily all it will ever be. So, I remain quite and content in the fact that no matter what the morrow brings(first or second resurection; sheep or goat), that our Father loves us all. It is not for me to judge or to even speculate on the timing or circumstances involved. That seems to me to be an unrevealed chapter of the plan. Just as grace is only given by the Lord, so justice is also disperced in His time and in His way...I am kinda partial to grace though ;D
Jackson
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