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Fascinating. I'm aware that AI operates only by the things we “feed” it, so it's obvious you've been feeding it Ray's work. Thanks for that.

But now, what do you think Bob? Is this in the spirit of building up the church? Did it do anything for you personally, assuming it's true?

There is another parallel passage (actually there are many parallels to this) in one of Joel's prophesies. The interesting part was that yesterday was Pentecost, which I didn't realize until after I made the post. Now, I'm not one to make a big deal out of things like that, but the timing on God's part left me with my jaw on the floor. My first thought to God after realizing this was “No way!”. I can be a skeptic like that sometimes, so I remain skeptical for now. Gotta admit, it's still pretty cool.

Anyhow, here's Joel's prophecy from Peter.
Act 2:16  But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

Act 2:17  And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Act 2:18  And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Act 2:19  And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

Act 2:20  The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Act 2:21  And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

This passage is what came to mind when I doubted. I was trying to figure out how to explain the Noah's flood and I saw it in the phrase, “I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh”. It got better when I remembered the following.

1Jn 5:6  This is the One coming through water and blood, Jesus Christ; not by the water only, but by the water and the blood. And the Spirit is the One witnessing, because the Spirit is the truth.

1Jn 5:7  For there are three bearing witness in Heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. (possibly spurious)

1Jn 5:8  And there are three who bear witness on the earth: The Spirit, and the water, and the blood; and the three are to the one.

How about that? The Spirit, the water, and the blood are one in meaning and function because they all wash our conscience to forgiveness.

I suppose the whole point of sharing all this is so you could be where Christ is. He really isn't far from any one of us.

So I asked AI Gemeni to answer your question. This is the reply.
 Conversation with Gemini

How would you answer this question on Bible truths,com What does this have to do with the “Days of Noah”? A parable:


Mat

24:36 Now, concerning that day and hour no one is aware, neither the

messengers of the heavens, nor the Son; except the Father only."


Mat 24:37 For even as the days of Noah, thus shall be the presence of the Son of Mankind."


Mat

24:38 For as they were in those days before the deluge, masticating and

drinking and marrying and taking in marriage until the day on which

Noah entered into the ark,


Mat 24:39 and did not know till the deluge came and takes them all away, thus shall be the presence of the Son of Mankind."


Is it just me, or is this saying that no one will be aware of Christ's

very presence “till the deluge came and takes them all away”? Ray in the

quote above taught and believed the phrase “Jesus Christ is come in the

flesh” was very real. It only occurred to me that it also signifies

Christ's presence in us. The kicker is the fact that anyone who denies

Christ's is come in our flesh is an antichrist.


Based on the teachings of L. Ray Smith and the framework of Bible-truths.com, your understanding is not just you—it is exactly in line with how Ray taught these spiritual concepts.

If you were to post this realization on the Bible-truths forum or analyze it through Ray’s writings, here is how those two concepts (The Days of Noah and Christ in our flesh) intimately connect:
1. The "Presence" (Parousia) vs. The "Return"

A cornerstone of Ray's teaching was pointing out that the Greek word parousia means "presence" or "being alongside," not necessarily a physical "return" from outer space.

Mainstream Christianity is waiting for a physical Jesus to crack open literal clouds in the sky. Because they are looking strictly at the physical (the carnal), they are completely unaware of His spiritual presence right now. Just as the people in Noah's day were totally absorbed in their physical lives ("eating, drinking, marrying") and oblivious to the spiritual reality of God's impending judgment, the carnal mind today is oblivious to Christ's presence. They will not be aware of Him until "the deluge" comes.
2. The "Deluge" as Spiritual Judgment

In the Bible-truths framework, God's judgments are highly spiritual and designed to destroy the carnal mind (the flesh) so that the spirit can be saved.

    The Flood represents the overwhelming, consuming judgments of God that sweep away the old, carnal man.

    Therefore, no one is aware of Christ’s profound, inward presence until they personally experience this "deluge"—the fiery judgment of God operating in their own lives that destroys their fleshly ego and leaves only Christ behind.

3. "Christ is Come in the Flesh"

Your realization about 1 John 4:2-3 is the exact point Ray drove home repeatedly. The phrase "Jesus Christ is come in the flesh" is translated from a Greek perfect participle, meaning an action that happened in the past but continues as a present reality.

Ray taught that this does not just mean Jesus was a historical human being 2,000 years ago. It means Christ is presently living, walking, and acting IN OUR FLESH right now. * "Christ in you, the hope of glory" (Colossians 1:27).

    "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me" (Galatians 2:20).

4. The "Antichrist" Connection

This is where the "kicker" you mentioned comes into play. According to Ray's teachings, if someone believes Jesus is strictly sitting on a physical throne billions of lightyears away, waiting to physically return to earth someday, they are inadvertently denying that He is currently present in the flesh of His believers.

By denying His present, inward reality, they fulfill the definition of the antichrist spirit: "every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come [is presently coming/living] in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist" (1 John 4:3).
Summary of the Bible-Truths Perspective on Your Question:

You are absolutely correct. The parable of the Days of Noah and the doctrine of "Christ come in the flesh" are teaching the same spiritual truth. The carnal world (and the carnal church) goes about its physical life entirely blind to the fact that Christ's Parousia (presence) is happening right now within His chosen elect. They will remain completely unaware of Him until God's "flood" (His purifying judgment) sweeps away their carnal nature, finally forcing them to see the reality of Christ dwelling with in.
 Hope this helps, As most know from my last post I use AI a lot in my daily life. Just remember its not perfect, use you own judgements on the answers.Take care, Bob from Florida

The following is a short quote from Ray regarding the truth of “Christ in you”.

https://bible-truths.com/forums/index.php/topic,15339.msg136756.html#msg136756

"Hereby know ye the SPIRIT OF GOD:  Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is COME IN THE FLESH is of God" (I John 4:2).

"Hereby know we that WE DWELL IN HIM, and HE IN US, because He hath given us OF [genitive--OF] His spirit" (Verse 13). 

It is JESUS CHRIST Who comes IN OUR FLESH.  To deny that it is JESUS CHRIST Who comes in our flesh is the spirit of ANTICHRIST.

CHRIST is our comforter. CHRIST leads us into all Truth. It is CHRIST in us the hope of glory. CHRIST is the parakletos. And this is all accomplished by the spirit OF God which the Father gave also to Christ and so we have the spirit of both the Son and the Father making its home IN US, not a third person of a fabled trinity!

OF COURSE Jesus Christ is God. He is the VERY IMAGE, THE EXPRESS IMAGE, OF THE INVISIBLE GOD HIMSELF--and that makes Christ GOD.  And Jesus and His Father ARE ONE and they operate through ONE SPIRIT--THEIR spirit, not some OTHER person of a trinity.

Sincerely,
 
Ray
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What does this have to do with the “Days of Noah”? A parable:

Mat 24:36 Now, concerning that day and hour no one is aware, neither the messengers of the heavens, nor the Son; except the Father only."

Mat 24:37 For even as the days of Noah, thus shall be the presence of the Son of Mankind."

Mat 24:38 For as they were in those days before the deluge, masticating and drinking and marrying and taking in marriage until the day on which Noah entered into the ark,

Mat 24:39 and did not know till the deluge came and takes them all away, thus shall be the presence of the Son of Mankind."

Is it just me, or is this saying that no one will be aware of Christ's very presence “till the deluge came and takes them all away”? Ray in the quote above taught and believed the phrase “Jesus Christ is come in the flesh” was very real. It only occurred to me that it also signifies Christ's presence in us. The kicker is the fact that anyone who denies Christ's is come in our flesh is an antichrist.

Is anyone else able to confirm this to be true? Or perhaps show me the error in my thinking? Because this just blows my mind, not gonna lie.

I removed monetization from all our YouTube videos. So no more ads in our videos.

They were needed when I was posting new videos else YouTube would not promote the new videos at all.

The amount of money we received from the ads was trivial. About $20.00 a month.

But we still pay YouTube to run our 30 second "Hell" ad every day.

I remember only once of any anger Jesus may have shown—temple/money exchangers/tables over turned.  (Excluding Old Testament).  Surmise any tinge of ‘what did I say wrong..?’ that Phillip may have felt contrariwise to normal peaceful exchanges with the Lord would have been short-lived.  Especially since they were not yet converted but very soon to be.  Even Peter may have felt the bristle brush, John 21:22.  ….”what is that to you?…”
But, we’re talking about our Lord who exemplified matchless humanly candor and peace of heart. 

In the same theme, Paul was of strong character and openly admitted he could be gentle or bring a rod of iron, ie: 1 Cor 4:21; and, “you foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you,…?”; and, “his letters are weighty and strong,” 2 Cor 10:10
Sour wine or honey.  But that’s why I like Paul’s writings.  His letters sway the seismic needle as required.  Even before his ‘road trip’ it doesn’t sound like Paul was a tickler of ear personality.  His letters are hard but thorough.  And myself being one in the fold of the ‘dumber’ sheep elementary is paramount.  I admit I have to read Paul repeatedly and short doses often. 

Thanks for the good reply Dave.

I agree with you about Paul.  I think he understood the "many are called, few chosen" nature of the Gospel of the Kingdom, ministering to "both" in the same letters.  He lived it, after all, and deeply.  I think he is quite funny at times, in that somewhat typical Jewish sense of humor that seems to have survived even to the present.  He comes the closest of any personage of the Bible to someone that I feel like I more completely understand, though not everything (as Peter attested) is easy.

As for Philip.  Since the disciples were not yet "converted" when this exchange took place, it's possible that Philip was just as perplexed by the answer as he had been before the question.  No doubt he remembered those words later.  So, if his feelings were hurt, it was only for a little while until he made peace with "He who has seen me has seen the Father..." and his fear left him.  That's "a" way to imagine this conversation.  I can imagine it other ways, but not as ending with anything short of faith-as-a-child.     

Once again I will give Ray respectful and due credit.  Probably not exact but, “weigh GOD’S words very carefully”. 

Yes indeed. 

Everyone has their own favorite scripture verse, or verses.  I have several myself.  From Psalms to Proverbs to anything Paul wrote.  Especially Paul.  If Paul were a sandwich he wouldn’t be scrambled eggs, more like roast beef.  Full of tasty meat. 

Aside from getting hungry I’ll push on to my point.  Today I came -back- across a beauty of getting to know Jesus.  And since I don’t participate in any established religion/church/Sunday school/Wednesday night “prayer” meetings, I’ll share this glory with some like-minded folks that would truly appreciate the majesty.

From the SUPER LARGE PRINT NASB (because old eyes require SUPER LARGE PRINT);

John 14:  8-9

“Phillip said to him, Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us”.

Jesus said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Phillip?  He who has seen me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

In our ever-so-kind world today that “gotcha” retort would have come with a snappy sneer….because that’s what  a true beast does nowadays. 

To pull from another “ray-ism” and informally quote “say, did you happen to notice”…..

…”and Jesus loved him”.   

Because you know he did.

Hi Casey,

You cannot take the number of Guests that show up as real people.  A lot of them are actually SPAM Bot Attacks.  For example, right now I can see the number of GUESTS showing up as Users Online being 4,526 Guests.  Most of these are not real people.

  I have a Question for anyone who cares to answer,
  why do so many sign sign on to this forum as guest
  and not forum members?


                      Casey

In this LOF part 4, Ray as a subtitle called "The Three Festivals and the Salvation of ALL". Ray talks about in #3 THE END-OF-YEAR OF INGATHERING (Feast Of Tabernacles)
Hopefully this will help.

http://bible-truths.com/lake4.html