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 on: Today at 11:32:48 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by indianabob
Friend Tony,
I used to think that I would like to be alive when our Lord returns, in order to see that event with my own eyes.
But the way things are progressing, the end may be something that no one should desire to see.

As an older and perhaps wiser fellow I have changed my thinking and am contented to let God decide the timing according to His love for me.

Indiana bob




Dan 12:4  But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

We don't know anything for absolute certainty yet. Maybe, Maybe Not.

It seems evident to me that we are in or very close to the end times but I'm always reminded of what someone told me many years ago when I was in the WWCG and they had that "1975 in prophecy" pamphlet saying the end was going to occur in 1975. She was in her 40's when she said: "everyone thinks they are living in the end times." She had just gone thru WWII and they were certain the end was at hand back then.

But part of my motive for starting this topic was to see what everyone else is thinking.

And I know it's been hard for some not to go political. So thank you for that.


Hurricane Michael was really bad but Hurricane Camile in 1969 was much worse. And if you are talking about loss of life then The Great Galveston Storm in 1900 was the worst.

dennis,

my feeling is also that we are near to Christ's return for many of the reasons given by the scriptures articulated in this thread.  the truth is that, since His ascension, those of us that have been placed in Christ have always been near to Christ's return, as close as our last breath.

tony

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 on: Today at 10:03:33 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by cjwood
john, NOW i remember meeting you.  i never connected the story you described in ray's back yard with me trying to catch her kitty.  manuela had made spaghetti.  i still see her about once a year but keep in touch with her often.  she ended up selling the house she and ray had because it was more house than she needed.  plus she said the memories there were hard sometimes.  she bought a smaller house very close to the old house.

anyway, thanks for reminding me of the story when i actually met you.

claudia

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 on: Today at 09:59:49 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by cjwood
hi yello62,  i would recommend you make use of the cbd oil.  i use it daily.  the company i order from is very well rated for all of their products.  they are called bluebird botanicals out of boulder, co.  they have different mg strengths per dose so you can find one that suits you best.  studies have now shown that cbd oil can help with type 2 diabetes.  look into it.  my baby sister has started using it for her spinal pain and it has helped her a lot too.

i'm not an old man, but i am a woman of mature age  ;D and i too look forward to where my true citizenship is.  new jerusalem.

claudia

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 on: Today at 07:32:28 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by yello62
john,

we old men have a country.  it's maker is our Creator.  can't wait to reside there.  :)

tony

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 on: Today at 07:27:38 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by John from Kentucky
You already made it better JFK by your kind words.  I love you brother in Christ.

claudia

The last time we met was in November 2009 at the Mobile, AL conference.

Ray and his wife invited everyone over for a meal.  It was a Sunday afternoon, in his backyard and you were trying to catch and pet one of His cats.

I was sitting at one of the tables.  Ray walked over to talk to some of us.  A woman was troubled in spirit.  One of her relatives had died and was mentally unwell.  She asked Ray what would happen to Him.  Ray told her Jesus would bring him back to life and heal his mind and save him and give him everlasting life.  Jesus would save everyone.  Ray's words made that woman so happy and gave her peace.  It was a blessing for me to witness Ray's kindness to that woman. 

That was nine years ago.  Nine years!  Makes me feel old.  No Country For Old Men.

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 on: Today at 07:03:32 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by yello62
Dan 12:4  But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

We don't know anything for absolute certainty yet. Maybe, Maybe Not.

It seems evident to me that we are in or very close to the end times but I'm always reminded of what someone told me many years ago when I was in the WWCG and they had that "1975 in prophecy" pamphlet saying the end was going to occur in 1975. She was in her 40's when she said: "everyone thinks they are living in the end times." She had just gone thru WWII and they were certain the end was at hand back then.

But part of my motive for starting this topic was to see what everyone else is thinking.

And I know it's been hard for some not to go political. So thank you for that.


Hurricane Michael was really bad but Hurricane Camile in 1969 was much worse. And if you are talking about loss of life then The Great Galveston Storm in 1900 was the worst.

dennis,

my feeling is also that we are near to Christ's return for many of the reasons given by the scriptures articulated in this thread.  the truth is that, since His ascension, those of us that have been placed in Christ have always been near to Christ's return, as close as our last breath.

tony

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 on: Today at 06:21:06 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by Musterseed
Gen.6:5
And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination
of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Luke 17:26
And as it was in the days of Noah, so it also shall be.

“You know the whole thing has so crept up on us that many of us have not seen it coming.
Don’t even see it now. Don’t realize the extent of the perversion and evil in the world. It’s pretty bad”..... Ray

“If you break one of God’s laws , your guilty of all”. L Ray Smith
I agree with ya Mike, our sins have gone to high heaven.

Though God’s ways are sometimes mysterious ,( no kidding Lord)😬 the righteous shall live by His faith while
awaiting salvation. (Habakkuk intro.)

Habakkuk’s complaint is very interesting and the Lords answer says
Look among the nations and see wonder and be astounded. For I am doing
a work in your days that you would not believe if told.
For behold I am raising up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation
who march through the breadth of the earth to seize
dwellings not their own.

Does in your days mean now in our time ? And who are the Chaldeans? Can someone help me please.
 We are in the middle of a scary windstorm and my I pad only works when it feels like it so I want to post before we lose power or this iPad
quits on me again. ❤️
In Christ, Pamela



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 on: Today at 06:04:51 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by cjwood
You already made it better JFK by your kind words.  I love you brother in Christ.

claudia

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 on: Today at 05:25:07 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by Wanda
Thanks Dean. I see you have been quiet diligent in your efforts and I can not begin to know the path God leads you, however my views and understanding do differ.

I see the entire story of Israel under Moses and Joshua as an imperfect model of what should come later, for it was done under a covenant that was conditional upon the people’s  keeping their vow in Exodus 19:8. This proved to be an utter failure, as history shows, for that kingdom eventually was destroyed and cast out of the land. God then began to set forth the New Covenant plan that could not fail, and this is what we see happening today.

Though the original plan failed as God intended,  its revelation, laws, and historic patterns prophesied of the new plan that would succeed. For me, it feels wrong to apply the Old Covenant methods of conquest to New Covenant times, because the two covenants each employ a different kind of sword, one physical and the other spiritual.

The Jewish state has never been at rest since its inception in 1948, nor does anyone live securely.

God chose Abraham and his seed to be a blessing to all families of the earth.
Should we not expect the true, godly Jews of Israel today  to be fulfilled by peace, righteousness, and justice as God intended? This is the contrast between the old Jerusalem and the New, between carnal and spiritual, between counterfeit and genuine.

Is a physically circumcised adherent of the Old Covenant  a Jew in the eyes of God, and a true  follower of Jesus Christ, the Mediator of the New Covenant?

As we know, God sees the end from the beginning, and just maybe he has planned something unexpected for the territory given to  Abraham back in Genesis, it does after all belong to God, as all things do.  Or perhaps we should view the territory as spiritual and not physical as Christianity does. The latter would certainly separate us from the world, with all it's deceitful political and religious trappings.























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 on: Today at 04:04:06 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by Dennis Vogel
Dan 12:4  But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

We don't know anything for absolute certainty yet. Maybe, Maybe Not.

It seems evident to me that we are in or very close to the end times but I'm always reminded of what someone told me many years ago when I was in the WWCG and they had that "1975 in prophecy" pamphlet saying the end was going to occur in 1975. She was in her 40's when she said: "everyone thinks they are living in the end times." She had just gone thru WWII and they were certain the end was at hand back then.

But part of my motive for starting this topic was to see what everyone else is thinking.

And I know it's been hard for some not to go political. So thank you for that.


Hurricane Michael was really bad but Hurricane Camile in 1969 was much worse. And if you are talking about loss of life then The Great Galveston Storm in 1900 was the worst.




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