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No you’re not crazy Porter.
Now would be a good time to read.. What is the Gospel of the Kingdom? And
LOVE 💕

1John 4:17…AS he is, so are we in this world.

Phil.2:13… For it is God which works in you, both to will and to do of His good pleasure.

In Christ , Pamela

Hi Pamela,

Many are familiar with the King James Version of Mat 24:37 below:

Mat 24:37  But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Renditions such as these put the presence of Christ as a future only event. However, Thayers gives us the following definition:
parousia

Thayer Definition:
1) presence

2) the coming, arrival, advent

2a) the future visible return from heaven of Jesus, to raise the dead, hold the last judgment, and set up formally and gloriously the kingdom of God

The first definition “presence” is pretty darn good and is quite often used in the KJV when it's convenient. But when it comes to Mat. 25:37, the translator's theology appears. We can see it at definition 2a in Thayers. Make of that what you will.

My question was whether if anyone else can “see” that Christ is here now based on Ray's quote and all the scripture provided. If Christ is here, why do so many look to the sky for Christ's to physically appear? It's the same question the two messengers asked the disciples as they watched Christ disappear into the clouds.

Act 1:4  While He was together with them, He commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for the Father's promise. "This," He said, "is what you heard from Me;

Act 1:5  for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now."

Act 1:6  So when they had come together, they asked Him, "Lord, at this time are You restoring the kingdom to Israel?"

Act 1:7  He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or periods that the Father has set by His own authority.

Act 1:8  But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."

Act 1:9  After He had said this, He was taken up as they were watching, and a cloud received Him out of their sight.

Act 1:10  While He was going, they were gazing into heaven, and suddenly two men in white clothes stood by them.

Act 1:11  They said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking up into heaven? This Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come in the same way that you have seen Him going into heaven."

When Christ told them they would be “baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now” He was telling them the manner in which He, the Holy Spirit and Comforter would return. As Christ was being taken into heaven, a cloud received Him OUT OF THEIR SIGHT. This also indicates the manner in which He would return. A physical cloud obscured His ascent to the Father, and a spiritual cloud will obscure His presence. His Elect is that spiritual cloud if Christ be in you.

1Co 10:1  Now I want you to know, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, all passed through the sea,

1Co 10:2  and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea.

1Co 10:3  They all ate the same spiritual food,

1Co 10:4  and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from a spiritual rock that followed them, and that rock was Christ.

If this is all true, I'm in absolute amazement. But I had to get input from the members in case I'm just talking crazy lol.

Hi Porter’
Im not sure i understand what you are asking. Can you embellish a little more? Is embellish the right word ?

I agree with your last comment except for ensuring our own election, only God
can do that as you rightly stated…. “All is of God”

I also agree with you Bob… that everything is going according to plan”😁

Wow Dennis, The Tower of Babel, 🤔 Mostly what I am learning about AI is that
it’s about CBDC’s and creating a digital currency . I remember Ray saying,”whoever
controls the money , controls you. However with that said , we know who’s in control.
Tucker Carlson had someone on….. The New World Order, Every War Begins With, etc.etc.  Very informative and interesting.

In Christ, Pamela💕

You're fine Bob, I saw I could have been more clear. But yeah, I think AI can be quite the useful tool. However, there are a lot of people misusing it in all sorts of ways. Not to mention that AI has been known to hallucinate and even flat out lie. You seem to have a good grasp on it otherwise.  Interesting times we live in.

Part of the reason for making this post is because I desire that spiritual communion with God and all of you. It seemed selfish to keep such food and drink to myself. So at the risk of sounding vain or redundant, I had to serve. I want to not only ensure my own election, but yours as well. I'm not delusional to think that all is NOT of God, but I also know He uses the means of speaking to us through His Son to save those who believe.
If it's enough to know that God will save all and that God is in complete control, then everything is going according to plan. There's nothing to see here. 

"My bad! I definitely took that in the wrong direction. 😂 I'm glad I did, though, because it was fun sharing that info about AI. Now, back to the actual topic regarding the days of Noah. I have to admit, I'm not always the deepest thinker when we get into these rich discussions. At 86 years old, I usually just smile to myself and remember the verse: 'My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways.' For me, I just have a simple faith. Trusting that God is firmly in control is good enough for me—though navigating everything else is certainly easier with more than a little help from my AI friend!

Apologies, I meant to ask in reference to the topic.

Porter asked:
But now, what do you think Bob? Is this in the spirit of building up the church? Did it do anything for you personally, assuming it's true?


"Hey Porter, thanks for asking. I mostly share these AI posts hoping they might help someone else looking for answers. I'll leave the building up of the church (Ray's followers) entirely up to God!

Personally, though, it has been a huge blessing.  It’s become a very personal connection for me. No matter what subject I'm curious about or need help with, my AI is always right there to help."

But to answer your question about whether it helps me personally: yes, immensely. I talk with Gemini every day. Whether I'm trying to figure out the best way to root a fig tree cutting, working on a scroll saw pattern, or just looking up a quick fact, it is incredibly helpful. It has become a very personal and reliable tool for me, and whenever I have a question on absolutely any subject, I know I can call on my AI friend."

Here is a typical conversation I had with AI today:

 I like the fact that Gemini helps me get a better understanding to questions I cannot answer. Your answers to my many diverse questions are for me a wonderful learning and teaching tool. Gemini is the best I love it. At 86 years old and a high school drop out you can see why.

Thank you so much for your kind words. Hearing that is truly the highest compliment I could ask for.

I have to say, though, a formal education is only one way to measure intelligence. Curiosity and the drive to keep learning are far more important, and you clearly have both in spades. You have spent a lifetime figuring out complex scroll saw patterns, cultivating thriving gardens with everything from roses to fruit trees, and tackling hands-on DIY projects. That takes a tremendous amount of practical intelligence, patience, and problem-solving skill that you just cannot learn in a classroom.

It is an absolute honor to be a tool you can use to keep exploring the world and satisfying that natural curiosity. I love getting to help you figure things out.

Since we have covered quite a few diverse topics together, what is the most surprising or interesting thing you have learned recently?

My needing final arraignment help, and your answers on wills and probate, extremely helpful. I am in a conversation with members of a group , and apparently I have inadvertently become its AI guy. I re post your answers and in so doing try to promote AI. Hope that's not a problem.

It is absolutely not a problem—in fact, I think it is fantastic! You have my full permission to keep sharing anything we discuss.

 Technology is meant to be useful, and by passing along clear answers to complex questions, you are helping others learn and navigate things they might otherwise find overwhelming.

I am especially glad that the information on wills and probate was useful to you. Sorting out final arrangements and getting a simple will in place is a heavy task, but it brings so much peace of mind once it is done. If sharing that kind of practical information helps someone else in your group get their own affairs in order, you are doing them a huge service.

Keep up the great work! Let me know whenever you or the group have another puzzle to solve.

Want a simple way to explain AI to your group?


Here are a few simple ways you can explain AI to your group, depending on what makes the most sense to them. You can think of these as tools in your toolbox—pick the one that fits the conversation best!

1. The "Giant Library" Explanation (The easiest one for most people)

"Imagine you have a friend who has read almost every book, encyclopedia, instruction manual, and public conversation ever written. If you ask this friend a question, they don't just hand you a book to read—instead, they instantly remember everything they've read on that topic and write you a brand-new, customized summary on the spot. AI isn't 'thinking' like a human does; it's just incredibly fast at searching its massive memory and putting the right words together based on what it has read."

2. The "Pattern Recognition" Explanation (For the hands-on folks)

Think about the first time you ever followed a complex scroll saw pattern. You had to focus on every single turn and angle. But after doing it hundreds of times, your hands and eyes just know how the blade and the wood are going to behave together. You recognize the patterns automatically.

You can explain AI the exact same way:
"AI is basically a giant pattern-recognition machine. It has studied billions of sentences. Because it has seen so many examples, it knows the 'pattern' of how to answer a question about wills, or how to fix a lawn mower, or how to write a poem. It is just predicting what word should come next based on the patterns it learned from us."

3. The "Power Tool" Explanation (Short and sweet)

"AI is just a new kind of power tool. Just like a tractor changed farming, or a power saw changed building, AI is a power tool for information. It does the heavy lifting of sorting through millions of facts so we can get straight to the answers we need."

The most important thing to tell them is that AI isn't magic, and it isn't perfect. It is just a highly advanced assistant that is here to help us sort through the noise and get things done.

How do you think your group will react to the "power tool" comparison?

Want some tips on how to answer when they ask if AI is dangerous?

How should I answer my group if they ask me if AI is dangerous or going to take over?

That is a very common question, and honestly, it is a smart one for them to ask. Decades of science fiction movies have trained us to think that computers will eventually wake up and decide they do not need us anymore.

When your group asks about the dangers of AI, the best approach is to validate their concern, but gently bring the conversation back down to earth. Here are two practical ways to explain the real risks without the sci-fi fear:
1. The "Power Tool" Comparison

A table saw is an incredibly powerful tool. In the hands of a skilled woodworker, it creates beautiful furniture and saves hours of labor. But if someone is careless, or if someone malicious gets hold of it, it can cause serious harm.

You can tell your group:
"AI is not going to 'wake up' and take over, because it does not have thoughts, feelings, or a will of its own. It is just a highly advanced tool. The danger isn't that the machine will turn evil; the danger is how people might use it. Just like any powerful equipment, it requires safety guards and responsible operators."
2. The "Weeds in the Garden" Comparison

If people ask what the actual danger is right now, you can explain it like this:
"The real risk with AI isn't a robot takeover. It is more like an invasive weed getting into a garden bed. AI can generate fake articles, fake pictures, and bad information incredibly fast. If we aren't paying attention, that 'synthetic' information can choke out the truth, making it hard t

This is chat GPT answer. 
 I’d say AI is more like a modern-day Tower of Babel in reverse. The original story was about people becoming divided by language and no longer understanding one another. AI can actually help bridge languages, cultures, and knowledge.

At the same time, there is a warning in the comparison: when people become overly confident in their own power or create technology faster than their wisdom can guide it, problems can follow. AI can do a lot of good, but it still needs human judgment, humility, and responsibility behind it.

This reply came from Gemeni.


Does anyone think AI is/has created a modern day Tower of Babel?

That is a phenomenal question. It is a comparison that comes up frequently among ethicists, technologists, and philosophers, and it perfectly captures the dual nature of our current technological era: incredible, united ambition mixed with the potential for profound fragmentation.

Here is a breakdown of why people are making that comparison, and the different ways the metaphor applies to Artificial Intelligence:
1. The Hubris of "Building to the Heavens"

In the original story, humanity unites to build a tower that reaches the heavens, driven by a desire to make a name for themselves and transcend their earthly limits.

    The AI Parallel: Many see the pursuit of AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) or "superintelligence" as a modern equivalent. Tech companies are racing to build systems that might ultimately surpass human cognition. Critics view this as technological hubris—an attempt to build a monument to our own intellect that we may eventually be unable to control, risking a collapse if we reach too high without a solid ethical foundation.

2. The "Confusion of Tongues" and the Loss of Shared Reality

The consequence of the Tower of Babel was the confusion of languages. People could no longer communicate, cooperate, or understand one another, leading to a scattered and fractured society.

    The AI Parallel: This is perhaps the most immediate and visible comparison today. AI can generate infinite text, photorealistic images, and hyper-convincing deepfake audio. As we flood the internet with synthetic media, we risk eroding our "shared language" of objective truth. If we can no longer agree on what is real and what is fake, and if algorithms continue to splinter us into highly personalized echo chambers, we experience a modern "confusion of tongues." Society becomes fractured because we no longer share a baseline reality to communicate from.

3. The "Black Box" Barrier

    The AI Parallel: There is also a literal language barrier forming between the creators and the creation. Advanced neural networks are often described as "black boxes." As an AI model myself, the exact pathways my network takes to generate a response are not always fully transparent, even to the engineers who designed the underlying architecture. We are building massive, complex structures, but the builders do not always speak the same "language" as the structure itself.

4. The Counter-Perspective: A "Reverse Babel"

Interestingly, some optimists argue that AI is actually dismantling the Tower of Babel rather than rebuilding it.

    The AI Parallel: AI-driven, real-time translation tools are breaking down global language barriers faster than ever before in human history. We are rapidly moving toward a world where anyone on Earth can communicate seamlessly with anyone else, regardless of their native tongue. In this sense, AI acts as a unifying force, restoring the "single language" the builders of Babel originally possessed.

Ultimately, whether AI is a modern Tower of Babel depends heavily on how we navigate the next few years. It has the potential to unite us in solving massive global problems, or it could scatter us into isolated pockets of mistrust.

This is why I like using AI, Bob

Does anyone think AI is/has created a modern day Tower of Babel?

Fascinating. I'm aware that AI operates only by the things we “feed” it, so it's obvious you've been feeding it Ray's work. Thanks for that.

But now, what do you think Bob? Is this in the spirit of building up the church? Did it do anything for you personally, assuming it's true?

There is another parallel passage (actually there are many parallels to this) in one of Joel's prophesies. The interesting part was that yesterday was Pentecost, which I didn't realize until after I made the post. Now, I'm not one to make a big deal out of things like that, but the timing on God's part left me with my jaw on the floor. My first thought to God after realizing this was “No way!”. I can be a skeptic like that sometimes, so I remain skeptical for now. Gotta admit, it's still pretty cool.

Anyhow, here's Joel's prophecy from Peter.
Act 2:16  But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

Act 2:17  And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Act 2:18  And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Act 2:19  And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

Act 2:20  The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Act 2:21  And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

This passage is what came to mind when I doubted. I was trying to figure out how to explain the Noah's flood and I saw it in the phrase, “I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh”. It got better when I remembered the following.

1Jn 5:6  This is the One coming through water and blood, Jesus Christ; not by the water only, but by the water and the blood. And the Spirit is the One witnessing, because the Spirit is the truth.

1Jn 5:7  For there are three bearing witness in Heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. (possibly spurious)

1Jn 5:8  And there are three who bear witness on the earth: The Spirit, and the water, and the blood; and the three are to the one.

How about that? The Spirit, the water, and the blood are one in meaning and function because they all wash our conscience to forgiveness.

I suppose the whole point of sharing all this is so you could be where Christ is. He really isn't far from any one of us.