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 on: Today at 02:54:50 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by indianabob
Dear friend Lareli,

Appreciate your reply.
Personally I had lots of "thoughts" about girls, women, adventures of many kinds before I found and married my lovely wife.
Then many of my thoughts were able to be expressed toward and with her.
I didn't have my spiritual eyes opened until many years after marriage and children and life in general.
So frankly I'm not sure I understand what you mean about Adam not being self aware.
It is not like they took the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good/evil the next day after Eve was awakened, was it??

Please explain further if you wish. Thanks, bob

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 on: Today at 01:27:55 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by lareli
Lareli,

The conscious thought to which you refer may be found in Gen 3:10 where Adam was afraid of God's presence, but the first conscious thought was likely long before that.
Adam lived for many days before noticing that he was alone and then many days with Eve, enjoying the companionship with her before the temptation. I'm sure that they both had many conscious thoughts pertaining to their existence before God made them aware that they would be dying as described in Gen 3:19 and continuing.

Indianabob

Maybe youíre right but Iím not so sure Bob. After all their eyes were not even open until Gen 3:7.

Sure, prior to them disobeying God they had Ďthoughtsí but that doesnít at all mean that they were self aware.

Their first Ďeyes opení thoughts were realizing that they were vulnerable (naked) to death. Not just that they were vulnerable (naked) to death but that death was a foregone conclusion. No matter what happens in their temporary life, it will ultimately end in death.

You said Adam enjoyed companionship with Eve prior to Gen 7. How so? His eyes were closed. He had no contrast of good and evil, but you think he had joy which would mean he had to have contrast of joy and sorrow? Remember it was God not Adam, who said it is not good for man to be alone. Adam didnít suggest it nor (consciously) desire it.. at least not in the scriptures.

Was it Ďgoodí or was it Ďevilí for man to be self conscious and self aware..

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 on: Yesterday at 04:02:06 PM 
Started by Musterseed - Last post by Wanda
Thanks Pamela, great stuff!

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Fear of death makes people crazy.

 Or is it the fear of life?

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Donít borrow sorrow from tomorrow.

But do take some joy from today into tomorrow, just in case.

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Re. Itís Scary,,, wondering what to do with the four honey nut Cheerios I found in my shoe this morning.I know itís a sign for something really spiritual so I think Iíll take my cat Keiko
for a walk in the rain and then make a pan of lime jello.😂

While shopping today,  my first purchase was exactly $62 and my second was exactly $26.  I know it means something, oh wait, I woke up at exactly 6:22 this morning.  This can't be a coincidence.  It's not raining today and I'm out of lime jello, so what do you think I should do?

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 on: Yesterday at 12:22:50 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by Dennis Vogel
Just saw this: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/03/19/704948217/daily-marijuana-use-and-highly-potent-weed-linked-to-psychosis

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 on: March 20, 2019, 07:43:13 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by Dave in Tenn
2Co_5:13  For whether we be beside ourselves, it is to God: or whether we be sober, it is for your cause.
1Th_5:6  Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
1Th_5:8  But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
1Ti_3:2  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
1Ti_3:11  Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
Tit_1:8  But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;
Tit_2:2  That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.
Tit_2:4  That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
Tit_2:6  Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded.
1Pe_1:13  Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
1Pe_4:7  But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
1Pe_5:8  Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

My experience with marijuana is neither broad nor deep, but I've known enough people to whom it has been to know that the "failure to get high" is not the desired effect. 

Be not drunk with wine (nor high on marijuana) but be filled with Holy Spirit. 

Whatever benefits we might allege as young people (true, or simply as justification) can really only be seen in hindsight...even if that hindsight occurs the next morning.  I "learned" everything I needed to know about and from being high the first time.  Decades later, I still have enough sense memory to "relive" those moments without "reliving" those experiences, should the need arise.  Time to move on.  It was what it was.  But now is a new adventure, and one to be faced soberly.

We're all going to do what we do until we don't any more.  If it's good (and sobriety is) than better sooner than later.

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 on: March 20, 2019, 06:09:05 PM 
Started by Musterseed - Last post by Musterseed
Hello Family
I was reading through all my notes from the past four years, Wow , has it been that long
already ,and found great comfort and inspiration in past comments from our family members. Thought I would
share a few. No names attached to them.



Sin is not revealed so that God can see it.
Itís revealed so that we can see it.
God doesnít require prayer for Him to hear
It is for us to hear.


Why worry when you can pray.

Where is God gonna put everybody?

He is stretching out the heavens.

If electricity comes from electrons,does morality come from morons?😁

I see this whole life as a spiritual womb.

It was the Spirit that showed me the truth of scripture, not the scripture that showed
me the truth of the spirit.

To sum it up, when itís time youíll know and when itís not time, youíll also know.
Itís truly a matter of Spiritual maturity that is only gleaned through the Spirit of God.
Donít wrestle with it, He will direct your steps.

I believe we are better served on defeating the beast within on our own selves
rather than the beast out there.

Hi Susan. Iím not Gena the teacher from Michigan. Iím the smarty pants from
Southern California 😂

I just wanted to be where Jesus was.

We are mere pawns of the powers that be.

Re. Itís Scary,,, wondering what to do with the four honey nut Cheerios I found in my shoe this morning.I know itís a sign for something really spiritual so I think Iíll take my cat Keiko
for a walk in the rain and then make a pan of lime jello.😂

I am always grateful for Him picking me back up and humbled by the weakness of my flesh
and my total dependence on Him. This is where He wants us.

So here, being that we are such a small group in comparison to the rest of Christiandom,
we really need to give one another the benefit of the doubt. Try to think the best, rather
than the worst. We need each other.

The beginning of humility takes all the fun out of proving people wrong.

We are going through a process from dirt to God. What was the question again.😁

The world,, if it is run by man and involves money and touted as truth, I question it.

Donít trouble trouble until trouble troubles you.

The Elect do not buy the lies of Christianity ( Babylon), nor sell nor peddle the word of
God for prophet,, as do the religious tourism trade.

BTW the eye in my pic belongs to my granddaughter age 2.
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That is the most beautiful Un photoshopped baby eye I have ever seen.🥰


Re, love you enemies.
I think it would mean that I am happy that Obama will be received by God after
the LOF. I rejoice that his eyes and ears will be opened, but in the meantime, I
would like to shove his face in a fresh steaming pile of cow manure.😂😂😂

Are you ready for the awakening of the world? Are you ready to see the true nature of man?

Sin is going to make the world feel very sick. The whole world is sick and
waiting for our healer.


There is too little of God anymore and too much of man.

An atom bomb is nothing compared to the power of a volcano.

My cat just squeezed out an audible fart.
Yíall figure out the square circle thing,
I got bigger issues to deal with.😂😂😂


I go to church every time I open my Bible.


The world is a pig pen.


Love is home in loves embrace.

Tolerance of wolves is cruelty to the sheep.

I know exactly where yonder is.

A compassionate heart makes a lot of difference to a hurting soul in a hurried and
uncaring world.

If you are alone and miserable,obviously you are in bad company.

God will make you sweat bullets and then provide your solution through your bullet sweating.

Stop looking in the shadows as though there are real powers in the shadows.
There is not. The only power is in the reality and the reality is Jesus Christ in us. Period.

God is all about family.He wants to hug you spiritually, three billion galaxies and kittens.

Being numb and having no feeling is a feeling too.

The earth is beautiful, itís humans that make it evil and miserable.

It is when the world realizes it is powerless , that it will call upon God.

We are born into a world where we kill people who kill people because killing people is bad.

We do not know what tomorrow brings but we know what brings tomorrow.

People get very upset when you try to take away their hell.

If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.

While the world goes to waste,we distract ourselves by passively watching it as entertainment.

Fear of death makes people crazy.

Re .Kindness,,, I petted a puppy today😁

Are we offended because we have no power, no say, no authority?

Computers are run by electricity and our bodies are run by spirit.

Man is without excuse in the depravity of his actions. Our own thoughts either excuse or accuse.
Feeling guilty actually keeps you in line.

Donít borrow sorrow from tomorrow.

The power of vanity is self worship

Home is the hunter.Home from the hills.
Home is the farmer, home from the fields,
And the sailor home from the sea.

The Bible makes sense , itís people who mess it up.

Sometimes I feel like the presence of the Lord has left me. This terrifies me.

I said the F- curse
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I know em all and can string them together in formations that
would make a pimp blush😂

Religion keeps you from experiencing God. It holds you back.

Christianity began as a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
When it went to Athens it became a philosophy.
When it went to Rome it became an organization.
When it went to Europe it became a culture.
When it came to America , it became a business.

Mans demon drive pride,, will collapse.

Ray QuoteĒ When Jesus returns, He wonít return as a humble carpenter from Nasarath.
He returns to rule the nations of the world as the LION OF JUDAH and
CONQUERING KING OF KINGS.

FROM Letter to Hagee

ďMaybe you think everyone out there is biblicallly illererate. Let me assure you that there are
carpenters, plumbers, postal workers and the like out there who would shame most theologians
when it comes to biblical knowledge. But itís not just technical knowledge that Iím talking about.Ē

Comment from Ray in E-mail ,,,,Whats Next #128
ď I believe that the maybe in this verse carries a connotation
that after all the things that go before( Jesus. bringing all enemies into
subjection and death abolished) that the next phase of Godís purpose
is now ready to begin. I do not believe that God being All in All is the
end ,but the beginning of a Whole New World. I may have more to say
on this in future studies .

In Christ ,,,Pamela❤️









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 on: March 20, 2019, 03:54:54 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by Wanda
In addition.


MarijuanaóAt low doses, marijuana increases serotonin levels. Paradoxically, at high doses, it causes a major serotonin depletion, making it more likely the user will need antidepressants. It is also important to note that when marijuana is smoked it is difficult to accurately measure the dosage.

https://www.northpointrecovery.com/blog/serotonin-syndrome-much-good-thing/

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 on: March 20, 2019, 02:55:19 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by Wanda
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But I know you will pay the price for anything that raises serotonin in your brain because when you get off the drug you are more depressed than when you first took the drug.

One of my brothers suffered with crippling depression as a result of smoking marijuana almost everyday as a teen. Before this, he was one of the happest outgoing people I knew. Once in his mid 20's it had altered the way his body naturally  produced serotonin, leaving him with depression so bad he wanted to die. He eventually reached out for professional help,  and was given psychotropic drugs, that worked temporarily, but they just reduced the serotonin production even more.

When he was 36, he could no longer endure the emotional darkness that had become his life , and he killed himself. My nephew is battling the same issue. There are millions of people, who are not able to cope with the harsh realities of life, turning to these drugs to cope, is only making things worse for them  unfortunately. For me, there was nothing worse than seeing the pain on the faces of loved ones, who believed death was the only way out. Now I'm  faced with the possibility my nephew might take his life as well.

Trying to defend the use of a drug that can and does have the ability to devastate lives, is in my opinion,  done without accepting all the facts. All of these drugs that affect the bodies natural ability to produce serotonin are dangerous.

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 on: March 20, 2019, 02:15:34 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by indianabob
Hi folks,
As long as we are discussing practicing Moderation in all things, you may find this article helpful to our understanding.
I cannot vouch for the author's facts, but from my own experience they seem reliable.
Bob

http://branscome.org/Wine.htm

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1Ti 5:23  Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

A 'little' wine means just a little, not a lot. Why? Because we do stupid things when we are not in control.

Physicians are mentioned many times in the bible so I don't think every medication is wrong.

But I know you will pay the price for anything that raises serotonin in your brain because when you get off the drug you are more depressed than when you first took the drug.

I don't have a problem with marijuana when used as a drug if it does not get you high.

"A powerful new form of medical marijuana, without the high"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/a-powerful-new-form-of-medical-marijuana-without-the-high/2016/12/29/81bbf7c0-b5b2-11e6-b8df-600bd9d38a02_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f3ccb65fbcba

I cannot speak from experience about Cannabis. But if it alters your mind that's not a good thing. Especially if it opens your mind to outside forces.

The bible does not speak kindly about sorcery and pharmakeia.

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 on: March 20, 2019, 01:34:02 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by indianabob
Well said Dennis and helpful for our better understanding.
Thanks, Indianabob

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