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 on: Today at 02:45:14 PM 
Started by largeli - Last post by largeli
Ambitious to creative is one thing and ambitious to be wealthy is another.

It's easy to get caught up in the world and let your ego/vanity get the best of you. Just keep in mind where all blessings come from.

Dennis what about not having ambition at all? Dave quoted Philippians where it says that "everywhere and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry.."

I had never read that translation using the words "full" and "hungry". It has me wondering if we are instructed to be content but also have a measure of ambition as well... in the chapter before in Philippians 3 we read Paul saying he forgets what is behind and presses forward..

Take, passing up a job promotion because I'm afraid of change for example. Staying in the same place and not growing because I'm comfortable and safe where I've been. I've always thought of myself as being content with my job but if I'm being honest and transparent then I have to acknowledge that yes, I may be content, but there's also some fear and lack of ambition that's keeping me where I've been also.

Another scripture that comes to mind is in a isaiah where he says to "enlarge the place of your tent"


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 on: Today at 02:26:45 PM 
Started by largeli - Last post by Dennis Vogel
Ambitious to creative is one thing and ambitious to be wealthy is another.

It's easy to get caught up in the world and let your ego/vanity get the best of you. Just keep in mind where all blessings come from.

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 on: Today at 02:05:30 PM 
Started by largeli - Last post by Dave in Tenn
Question.. we've been discussing 'the church' and how 'the church' doesn't teach any truths. But also where Ray said that many truths are taught in the church.

Let's not get back into that topic.  Enough has been said lately, and much of it is simply "strife over words" or, worse, one-upsmanship.

My question is; if there is no truth in anything that 'the church' teaches, than how would a deadly head wound be possible? If the deadly head wound is referring to Jesus saying "whoever falls on the stone will be broken" and the head wound is administered by the sword of God.. ?

It is as Ray explained it. 

Here's an additional scripture for consideration.

Heb 4:12  For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Same "bible"...dividing asunder soul and spirit.  I don't have a different "bible" than I had in my church days (may know a few more translations).  What I have is a different understanding.

And another:

Mat 6:22  The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
Mat 6:23  But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

The light that was in me was darkness. 






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 on: Today at 01:19:46 PM 
Started by largeli - Last post by Joel
Paul wrote a good bit about contentment in 1st Timothy chapter 6.
6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

Joel

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 on: Today at 01:02:45 PM 
Started by largeli - Last post by Dave in Tenn
Just a purely "secular" side-note.  I've read that, in the US, there is generally more "contentment" (the sense of well-being) the closer one gets to a salary of $70,000.  After that, there is no additional rise in "contentment" no matter how much more you can call "yours".

That's social science, not a hard-cold fact applying to everybody individually.  And I'm far less-than-sure that this is genuine "contentment".     

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 on: Today at 12:47:45 PM 
Started by largeli - Last post by Dave in Tenn
Php 4:11  Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.
Php 4:12  I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
Php 4:13  I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Contentment is to be found in whatever state you are in.  There are consequences to all our actions, though where we find ourselves at-the-moment (in whatsoever state) is not fully the result of our own actions. 

It certainly isn't just the "poor" who can be malcontent.  It certainly isn't just the poor who should be content.

It's easier to be content when you are somewhere in-between...neither hungry nor rich.  Unless, of course, you can't be content in either. 

I reckon both contentment and ambition are "spiritual".  What's the motivation?  What are the means?  Maybe that goes to the rest of your question.

   

 

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 on: Today at 12:47:23 PM 
Started by largeli - Last post by largeli
That's interesting Dave I hadn't thought about the head wound of the disciples as they followed Christ.

Question.. we've been discussing 'the church' and how 'the church' doesn't teach any truths. But also where Ray said that many truths are taught in the church.

My question is; if there is no truth in anything that 'the church' teaches, than how would a deadly head wound be possible? If the deadly head wound is referring to Jesus saying "whoever falls on the stone will be broken" and the head wound is administered by the sword of God.. ?



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 on: Today at 11:50:11 AM 
Started by largeli - Last post by largeli
What do you think about ambition vs contentment?

Can you possess both? I know that scripture tells us that contentment is a good thing but does scripture have anything good or bad to say about ambition? Can contentment be an excuse for laziness? Or can laziness be mistaken as contentment?

Or how about fear? Can fear of change be mistaken for contentment? Or contentment an excuse for fear?



Thanks




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 on: Yesterday at 04:25:38 PM 
Started by jeetkunejimi - Last post by John from Kentucky
It stands to reason he had to have a beard long enough to be grabbed, and to rip the hair from his face.

Isaiah 50:6- I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.

Joel

It stands to reason if you rely on only one Scripture.  I was aware of that Scripture, which is why I wrote, "if He had a beard."  I do not no for sure.

We must have at least two Scriptures to make definitive statements from the Scriptures.

We have other Scriptures that say Jesus had nothing in His appearance that would make Him stand out from the crowd.  A detail study of early 1st Century A.D. male fashion indicates that men wore their hair short with no beards.  A bearded man would have stood out in a crowd.

But, also as I said, this is a minor point.

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 on: Yesterday at 12:56:18 PM 
Started by jeetkunejimi - Last post by Joel
It stands to reason he had to have a beard long enough to be grabbed, and to rip the hair from his face.

Isaiah 50:6- I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.

Joel

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