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Put Spirits in prison in the search engine for the answer from Kat and Alex on this
from the teaching Ray gave

2 Pet.2:4…. for if God did not spare angels when they sinned ,but cast them into hell
( Gehenna) and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness, to be kept until the
judgement.

Jude 1:6….and the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority
but left their proper dwelling, He has kept in chains under gloomy darkness until
the judgement of the great day.

Matt. 25:41…. Then He will say to those on His left, “ depart from Me you cursed
into the eternal( eonian) fire( Gehenna) prepared for the devil and his angels.

Jude 1:16…. These are grumbles , malcontents,, following their own sinful desires
etc. etc. etc.

These are humans , the false teachers , preachers, pastors I believe.

God does put His Elect in prison sometimes though Porter. May be that’s where you are now. By the way Octoberose, the post I just read from 2016 on this very subject
was from you .Hang in there everyone, God didn’t raise no pansies.

Hi Porter


I’m praying for you Porter

like mustardseed said these are very hard times these tribulations that we go through and all the wicked in the world can take its toll on you but hang in there God will definitely see you through

Pamela, I pray that God keeps you safe from those fires  I don’t like this heat at all. I prefer the winter this heat just makes me sick

God bless
Wendy

You’re not alone Porter. This is very difficult, but this is how we enter the Kingdom,
through much tribulation . Much (sigh😞)

We are in a heatwave right now and just got notice that there is a forest fire
burning 20 minutes away so we are a little nervous, waiting for an evacuation order.
Every one is sick and tired , anxious, exhausted, afraid of the circumstance's
happening in the world.

God will see us through, all of us. He said “ be not afraid for I am with you”.
Jesus told Satan to get thee hence .  As He is , so are we in the world.
I will pray for you my brother. We love you.

I'm just tired. I'm not even that old at 52, but I'm tired. Tired of Satan trying to bring me down because of my sins. I've given up on trying, I don't know what to do. Help, I'm desperate and scared. So pathetic, I know.
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Sorry mods, I think this belongs in prayer requests. Feel free to move.

Going off memory, no Rose, He is talking about us who have been called and to whom “the end of the age” (to where ever you are in this spiritual age) has come. Noah as a type of mankind is the first and the physical shadow. Jesus is the light and also the last “something” and the spiritual reality of what we will become.
The time of Noah was a mere shadow or example of the type of human we were. Kind of like when we were in the image of Adam, who was of the dust, or carnality. The time of Jesus, which is now, is what we will become, which is opposed to carnality.
Does that make sense?

I mean, if you want to compare, I'm one step ahead of you in the smoking department. However, I'm still an alcoholic and always will be as far as I know. I can't have a drink and not want to get drunk, in other words. I hate that, but there's nothing I can do about it. Not only that, but I always USED to say “I don't care”, but now I say I care, but I can't do anything about it. Not totally sure if that's enough. I hate myself, and perhaps so will you hate yourself.
As for what you can and cannot say, the mods are fair in every sense of the word. I've talked my fair share of stupidity (as Ray would call it) but they've allowed me thus far. To be honest, I wouldn't have it any other way. My advice would be, let it all out. There's no other way for me to judge you, if that is what you so desire. We are here.
Heb 12:22  Instead, you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God (the heavenly Jerusalem), to myriads of angels in festive gathering,
Heb 12:23  to the assembly of the firstborn whose names have been written in heaven, to God who is the judge of all, to the spirits of righteous people made perfect,
Heb 12:24  to Jesus (mediator of a new covenant), and to the sprinkled blood, which says better things than the blood of Abel.

No, I was referring to the Chick tracts, mostly.  Those were around when I was a teenager/young adult in the seventies.  I didn't realize they had lasted much past that.

I too use to visit the "Facebook group" from time to time until I was no longer allowed to visit.

The ugly stuff I saw on Facebook makes me appreciate our rules on this forum.

Thanks Dave.
First of all, yes, I am the only one who was involved in the car crash. I thank God frequently for that. Secondly, I'm 40. Now to answer the more cryptic query:

I'd be disappointed to learn that some details of your introduction were still happening these days, but I could be wrong.

If you mean debauchery, no. I struggle with smoking cigarettes, but I'm glad to report that I'm doing pretty well in the resentments, lust and honoring my parents departments. I have the occasional bout of worry, but remembering that I'm commanded not to certainly helps.

If you mean I'm still somewhat plagued by the daffy doctrines of a particular group? Yes. I just re-read the rules and maybe a PM would be the best way to discuss them.

-Nick

Hi, Nick.  I'm glad you made it through the wreck, and I hope you were alone in needing to.

I'm going to make a few general comments that sprang to mind on reading. 

Firstly, the "facebook group" is not related to this forum or Bible-Truths.  Last I successfully logged on, they were allowing (if not actively promoting) subjects that were well removed from stuff Ray covered or even much cared about.  I don't know it's current status.  I found myself locked out (on purpose or by accident), and I didn't have any interest in it any longer.  That's been a few years ago, I think, though I'm not good at remembering some things.  Could be I was ruder than you?   

I'm guessing from some of the clues that we are of the same generation.  I'd be disappointed to learn that some details of your introduction were still happening these days, but I could be wrong.  I definitely get the bit about vacillating between trying to be a good christian  and descending completely into degeneracy.  In my case, I for the most part solved that conundrum  by stopping trying to be a good Christian.  It's not that I recommend that, but I'm thankful that the Lord sent me that way.

I don't want to violate the rules by asking for explanations that are beyond the bounds of ray's teaching, but I do have a couple questions that fall into exactly that category. Is there any way around that?

If your questions are "beyond the bounds" by being about topics or subjects that Ray didn't explicitly teach on, then there is likely no real harm in asking them if you are asking in good faith.  I can't promise that you will get satisfactory answers from discussion.  If your questions are "beyond the bounds" by being disagreement (temporary or permanent) then just re-familiarizing yourself with the rules will, I think, inform you about how to proceed, whether you do proceed or don't.  In some respects, discussion about what Ray taught is the point of the forum.  In other respects, it's a sanctuary for those at peace with understanding.  In either case, I'll tell you what I have told dozens and dozens of people over the years:  This forum is moderated.  Fear not.     They're good.

It's nice to meet you.